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    Tom you are not up to speed. Patrick Harrington I...

    Tom you are not up to speed. Patrick Harrington I believe resigned from them over two years ago. Since the NLP has a new Asian National Secretary and a gay national organiser I think the BNP would be...
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    I think Markf meant the National Liberal party a...

    I think Markf meant the National Liberal party a little to the right of the Liberal party although it has both ccentre-left and right positions.
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    Very perceptive Millennium. Whilst there are...

    Very perceptive Millennium. Whilst there are groups that are not right-wing such as http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/99937774260/ or...
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    I believe the Third Way has been going for 22...

    I believe the Third Way has been going for 22 years and still does but now as a 'think-tank' rather than a party. The NLP was formed 5 years ago? Some original members seem to has stayed with the TT...
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    I think the difference is the BNP members joining...

    I think the difference is the BNP members joining the ED are recent, have not changed ideologically and some were quite important whilst any ex-NF person in the NLP seem to be small fry (Williamson...
  6. Thread: Differences?

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    ProudEnglander Tom is partially right. The two...

    ProudEnglander Tom is partially right. The two liberal parties represent the two 'wings' of liberalism. National Liberalism and left (social) liberalism. In the 19th century NL was the predominant...
  7. Personally not opposed to the Scots going it...

    Personally not opposed to the Scots going it alone if that is what they want? (Scotland: Union or Independence - Is there a middle way? see State of the Union: » National Liberal Party | LIBERTY:...
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    Offering an alternative liberalism

    I've taken this from the NL website promoting their new journal NEW HORIZON - YouTube
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    Possibly but devolution means power transfered...

    Possibly but devolution means power transfered downwards. Westminster would primarily control defence and foreign policy. Counties would have far greater power, so Westminster would no longer be able...
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    The Union: Must it reform or die?

    Is it time to remove the fudge of devolution and turn us into a proper Federal Britain?
    see State of the Union – A Federal vision » National Liberal Party | LIBERTY: INDEPENDENCE: DEMOCRACY:...
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    He reminds me of Alex Salmond. He too passed over...

    He reminds me of Alex Salmond. He too passed over the mantle but came back when the party seemed to be weakening. Good luck to Steve.
  12. Thread: ??????????

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    Question: Liberals around just not of the social democratic...

    Liberals around just not of the social democratic kind!
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    Totally agree Paralrag, we should be much more...

    Totally agree Paralrag, we should be much more inward looking as in Switzerland rather than interferring (usually disasterously) elsewhere.
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    Further to what Stne the Croze said I believe...

    Further to what Stne the Croze said I believe there is some concern that Citizenship will be scrapped from the National Curriculum. It wouldn't surprise me since politicians realise that the...
  15. Quite so Tom.

    Quite so Tom.
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    I agree Marilyn that Referendums are only one...

    I agree Marilyn that Referendums are only one approach, Recall, PR etc being others (all of which I support). I also accept that our political culture has been kept in the 'dark ages' for a long time...
  17. I do know some ex-Green party members who walked...

    I do know some ex-Green party members who walked away when it took on a Red-Green flavour. My understanding is that there are quite a few 'non-left' party members who are left alone if they focus on...
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    Just read the following "Given the problems we...

    Just read the following "Given the problems we have had recently on the streets it is interesting to note that a Swiss economist Professor Frey believes that his country's system leads to greater...
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    Time to move to a Swiss system?

    One of the most prosperous and stable countries is Switzerland. Their constitution also lets their voter decide on many of the country's most important issues of the
    day via referenda. Coincidence?...
  20. Tom, nationalism isn't a broad movement only a...

    Tom, nationalism isn't a broad movement only a broad concept. Whilst there are many calling themselves 'nationalists' I would distinguish for example, between the patriotism of those seeking...
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    Question: I doubt that Clegg will do the decent thing. Most...

    I doubt that Clegg will do the decent thing. Most Western political elites have supported or gone along with this intervention in a civil war either to rid themselves of a troublesome regime, claim a...
  22. Thread: Politics & Art

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    Politics & Art

    Politics and Art: Do they mix, has it a role to play?
    see Preservation of Civil Liberties
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    The State and the individual

    ‎’Until August 1914 a sensible law-abiding Englishman could pass through life and hardly notice the existence of the state, beyond the post office and the policeman. He could live where he liked and...
  24. Village Idiot - The original UK 'Greens' were the...

    Village Idiot - The original UK 'Greens' were the Ecologist Party - John Papworth et al who were certainly not socialist/marxist and did accept that population was linked to the environment....
  25. English Green (the non-marxist ecologists)...

    English Green (the non-marxist ecologists) website seems fine? ENGLISH GREEN - Home
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