Thread: New Social Democratic Party website

Please visit our new Social Democratic Party website

www.thesdp.info

SDP.

I haven't read what's on the site yet, but will do so with interest.

Just an initial thought, though. Should the SDP perhaps seriously consider having a redesign of its logo? That red and blue acronym is too much reminiscent of the 80s, the Alliance, and the failure to break through. The other parties are constantly reinventing their logos to refresh their image. The Tories have ditched their torch (again, recalling the 80s), and now have a fluffy-looking tree symbol. Labour's rose has gone through two redesigns.

I know the party probably hasn't got much cash to spare to pay for expensive ad agencies, but that's not really necessary. Maybe have a competition among the members to come up with a new design?

You were mentioning in another threasd that you thought the UKIP's name was holding it back, well maybe the SDP's image is holding it back.

Originally Posted by Plutonium

SDP.

I haven't read what's on the site yet, but will do so with interest.

Just an initial thought, though. Should the SDP perhaps seriously consider having a redesign of its logo? That red and blue acronym is too much reminiscent of the 80s, the Alliance, and the failure to break through. The other parties are constantly reinventing their logos to refresh their image. The Tories have ditched their torch (again, recalling the 80s), and now have a fluffy-looking tree symbol. Labour's rose has gone through two redesigns.

I know the party probably hasn't got much cash to spare to pay for expensive ad agencies, but that's not really necessary. Maybe have a competition among the members to come up with a new design?

You were mentioning in another threasd that you thought the UKIP's name was holding it back, well maybe the SDP's image is holding it back.

Plutonium

I was a UKIP parliamentary candidate in 2005 and 2010. My results we 2.5% and 3.5%. I worked very hard for UKIP and was disappointed with my very poor results. I began to think that there was something wrong with UKIP's name.

I have only been with SDP for just over a year, so it is too early for me to say that the logo needs changing. Product recognition is also important, so a change of name and logo bears a certain amount of risk.

Although I think UKIP should change its name, they must not lose the product recognition that they have built up over the last 18 years.

UKIP need to state their support for the working class with more specificity, and then perhaps change their name to New UKIP.

Originally Posted by Russet

I can see nothing wrong with the name UKIP. The core problem rests in recreating the same support in Parliamnetary elections as it wins in elections to the European Parliament, Changing a name will not do that. Concerning the SDP do you not think the SDP ideas and values became New Labour?

Russet

UKIP do well in European elections and I congratulate them on their success.

Then there is the problem of council and parliamentary elections where UKIP do not do so well. I believe for council and parliamentary elections you need a core vote position within the class struggle. Conservatives are for the middle and above including the rich. Labour claim to be for the working class, although they prefer to say they stand for the squeezed middle.

UKIP try to support everyone equally. But if you try to please everybody, you sometimes end up not pleasing anyone.

Originally Posted by Russet

I can see nothing wrong with the name UKIP. The core problem rests in recreating the same support in Parliamnetary elections as it wins in elections to the European Parliament, Changing a name will not do that. Concerning the SDP do you not think the SDP ideas and values became New Labour?

You're right. Many former SDP members joined, or re-joined Labour, when Blair came into power and reformed Clause 4 of the Labour constitution.

While not everything New Labour did in power turned out to be ideal, I still believe that under the First Past the Post electoral system (which we are lumblered with for the foreseeable future), the best place to fight for social democratic values is within the Labour party.

Originally Posted by Plutonium

You're right. Many former SDP members joined, or re-joined Labour, when Blair came into power and reformed Clause 4 of the Labour constitution.

While not everything New Labour did in power turned out to be ideal, I still believe that under the First Past the Post electoral system (which we are lumblered with for the foreseeable future), the best place to fight for social democratic values is within the Labour party.

Plutonium

While Labour believe in totally unrestricted immigration in to Britian from all of the 500 million EU citizens, they cannot claim to represent the best interests of the British working class.

Originally Posted by SDP

Plutonium

While Labour believe in totally unrestricted immigration in to Britian from all of the 500 million EU citizens, they cannot claim to represent the best interests of the British working class.

sounds like you want to divide the working class. you should get a few BNP recruits with staements like that

Agreed red zed