Roland

Purely tax on fuel no road tax no tolls.

Don't like the idea of tolls it's would require either long cues to get on to roads or tagging car thus more possible surveillance.

Next reason from an environmental view the bigger the engine the more fuel you use every ones a winner.

It's reasonable to say although not altogether true that the more petrol you use the more your car is placing where and tear on the roads this is not always true in inner city areas but then public transport is far better so there normally is a reasonable alternative.

There is no need for road tax any more it is a disgrace. If a man has five cars but only one is ever on the road at any one time then why should for five cars.

Tax on petrol should then be purely proportionate to the cost of running roads and providing alternatives as in public transport. I personally feel there is a case for the funding of public transport through tax on petrol as the more people who use it the easier life is for the motorist.

ukpopdems

Excerpt from UKpopdems economic policy doument supporting elimination of tax disc and ring-fencing of motor taxes. We are not supporters of road tolls.

Elimination of Road Tax Disc

UKpopdems will address these issues in the way the people have long wanted them to be addressed. The solution will pay back over an extended period, but distinctive short term benefits can be achieved quickly. Most people want the right options to meet their needs for safe, fast, reliable and clean travel at fair cost and this is what UKpopdems will deliver. In the first place we’ll make a simple change that past governments should have done years ago; we will eliminate the tax disc on all road vehicles and add the average to petrol prices. This will do several things: first, it will make road taxes fairer by causing drivers to think about actual fuel usage rather than just the size of vehicle. Real-life fuel usage is a much better indicator of CO2 emissions than theoretical published figures. Thus, the less fuel used, the less tax is paid. A light foot and efficient driving will save money, while a heavy foot and inefficient driving will cost more: second, it will create an environment where all road users pay fairly. There will be no room for evasion as with the current disc and therefore worthwhile savings will be made on enforcement resources and central road tax processing costs: third, it will force foreign drivers to pay their fair share of road usage costs when in Britain, which they do not at the moment. To maintain fairness, we’ll guarantee through independent monitoring that government will not make more tax money out of British drivers using this system; any surplus will be returned in future lower fuel taxes.

Ring-fencing Motoring Taxes

Next, we’ll do something else that past governments should have done; that is to ring fence motoring taxes as an exercise in open government. This way everyone can see what is collected and where the money is going. Actually, increasing tax ring-fencing generally is a long term goal for UKpopdems and it’s something people will see more of. For motoring we’ll guarantee to spend 50% on roads, 15% on public transport, 15% on emergency services and 20% on environmental improvement. In terms of the environment.

kernow

Fund it from the present fuel tax. the more you use the roads the more you pay! The major flaw with my idea is, the Government will use it as an excuse to keep increasing fuel tax!

Independent UKIP

Go back to the original reason for the creation of the Road Tax. That is a tax that pays for the upkeep and development of roads. Every penny being spent on roads. No surplus taken by central government for general purposes. That orginal principle behind the Road Tax was broken in the early 1920s I believe. It is time it came back in my opinion.

The Bear

Fuel tax plus axle tax.

That way a car or a small van pays on the basis of fuel used whereas a larger vehicle pays more to cover the additional road space it occupies.

What I would like to see are caravans and trailers being subjected to road tax, compulsory third party insurance, and annual MOT’s.

I would also like to see the driving licence extended to include a class that applied to towing trailers and caravans.

The dammned things get driven by idiots, especially around my neck of the woods, and some are in a dreadful condition, get driven in the most selfish and at times stupid manner, and generally at best get in the way.

Similarly push bikes. Licence and tax if used outside a 30mph zone and compulsory third party insurance say I.

The number of times that I’ve been held up in a line of traffic simply because some sweaty tw@ on a bike has been poodling along at HIS pace creating no end of problems for those behind him is amazing.

“They’re so GREEN” these Lycra clad idiots joyfully come out with, yet they totally fail to realise much less acknowledge that whilst they’re polluting by sight (and later by smell) they are also CAUSING a hell of a lot of excess pollution as a result of the hold up’s they cause.

Then there’s horses.

The only four legged animal that you will see on the highways with a sex organ positioned in the middle of its back.

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Ea of Dune

Labour already did that.


My folks (who live in your neck of the woods) have a caravan, there are lots of good places in Norfolk to go camping/caravaning.
I can honestly say I've really never had a problem with it. The scabby caravans are probably driven by the kind of people that drive scabby cars anyway.
I'll have a word with my old man and see what he says about MoT etc. on the van and see whether he thinks it's a good idea. They keep there van in excellent condition but I don't suppose they'd appreciate being taxed yet again to make up for the fact that some people are pikies.

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g hall

Basic road fund licence to prove insurance and roadworthiness with fuel tax OR all vehicles must display an insurance disc (I believe what the Germans do ) and fuel tax - ALL fuel tax pays for roads ONLY

Driving licences and entitlements to drive
Vehicles you can drive and how old you must be to drive them : Directgov - Motoring
How to add higher categories to your driving licence (staging and upgrading) : Directgov - Motoring

Get your letters out B,BE,BC,CE,C1,C1E,D1,D1E f,k,l,n,p

I see every day drivers of all ages and both sexes in different vehicles and a significant minority frighten me indeed a few scare me and some drive ECILOP vehicles and they should know better

Horse users should also pass a test before going on the road
Cyclists and pedestrians need to read the Highway Code as well and where possible separated from vehicular traffic

Children should be taught that a road is NOT a substitute for a playground despite what the treehuggers say

Given The Bears rant about adhering slavishly to speed limits I find his latest posts to be rather amusing

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cabana

I would agree with you, but having travelled on the M6 toll road which is all of 20 miles and was charge 5 quid I would say sticking with the old system is cheaper. We pay road tax, a ridiculous tax on fuel and also congestion charge if you are in London (and I believe that it will be implemented in other cities). Why don't I just give my pay packet to the Government? I do not see why since we pay all those, we should also pay a road toll on the M6. Its just another way for this corrupt, thieving government to make more money off the people. "The peoples party"? Not likely, "The thieving party" is much more apt.

Besoeker

A larger vehicle will generally use more fuel, thus pay more in fuel duty.
Payment on the basis of fuel duty, though maybe not perfect, would seem to be the simplest and most equitable means of collecting revenue for road use.

BonnieDundee

It should be taxed by use and only used on roads. Basically the amount paid should be as close to your share of upkeep and expansion per share of road use as possible. And the tax should therefore aggregately be as close to that needed to upkeep and expand(conservatively.) as possible.

I'd also like to see most of this organised on a decentralised level.

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