Is 958 council candidates a good start for UKIP?

Anthony Butcher · 17-04-2007, 08:21 AM

Is 958 council candidates a good start for UKIP?

It isn't quite the 'over 1000' candidates promised by NF (unless we include parish and town councillors), but is it a good showing for Britain's fourth largest party?

Keyser Soze · 17-04-2007, 08:35 AM

I would say that as far as I know the numbers have not been finalised by UKIP.Am I wrong on this?

Anthony Butcher · 17-04-2007, 08:46 AM

http://www.vote-2007.co.uk/index.php?topic=771.75

Jonathan Arnott is/was the UKIP local elections coordinator, so his numbers should be reasonably accurate.

On the assumption that the 'ball park' number is just under 1000, is this good?

To put it in context, according to Iain Dale (who gave inaccurate UKIP numbers), the Tories have 9,264, Labour have 6,360, the Lib Dems have 6,667 and the BNP 717.

The Greens have 1,394 candidates.

Anthony Butcher · 17-04-2007, 08:50 AM

I have added an 'It's OK' option to the poll. Having looked at the numbers, UKIP is putting in less than the greens, but more than the BNP. That's an OK start I think.

g hall · 17-04-2007, 11:13 AM

I would suggest that Greens are more committed and younger. I would be interested in occupations as well on the basis that some jobs require a longer working day then others

mkpdavies · 18-04-2007, 06:32 AM

It's better than ever before and therefore is progress.

UKIP have never been interested enough in locals. If they can keep increasing this figure election on election, then that is progress.

In an ideal world they would run in every seat. This isn't an ideal world.

Don't forget UKIP is still a young party, compared to the Greens and Nazis.

Richard Allen · 18-04-2007, 08:42 AM

It is good progress. It would have been nice to hit 1,000 but lets not be churlish about this. For years UKIP showed almost no interest in local elections. We are finally moving in the right direction but these things take time.

arden forester · 18-04-2007, 09:33 AM

When some of the 958 are elected, can they operate as groups with group leaders. Seems this hasn't happened much before. I would think that getting councillors elected will help UKIP to be A. Not seen as a one-trick pony and B. Have some local political gravitas!

g hall · 18-04-2007, 12:53 PM

The party as a whole needs to act with some cohesion and not be seen as a bunch of nutters and fruitcakes (to quote some moron)

There must be coordination and cooperation at all levels

KeyStage2 · 18-04-2007, 12:59 PM

It's a good effort

View Poll Results: Is 958 council candidates a good start for UKIP?
Yes	40	65.57%
No	7	11.48%
Don't Know/Care	4	6.56%
It's OK	10	16.39%
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17-04-2007, 08:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 9,455 Party: None	Is 958 council candidates a good start for UKIP? Is 958 council candidates a good start for UKIP? It isn't quite the 'over 1000' candidates promised by NF (unless we include parish and town councillors), but is it a good showing for Britain's fourth largest party?

17-04-2007, 11:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,596	I would suggest that Greens are more committed and younger. I would be interested in occupations as well on the basis that some jobs require a longer working day then others __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."

18-04-2007, 06:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	It's better than ever before and therefore is progress. UKIP have never been interested enough in locals. If they can keep increasing this figure election on election, then that is progress. In an ideal world they would run in every seat. This isn't an ideal world. Don't forget UKIP is still a young party, compared to the Greens and Nazis. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

18-04-2007, 09:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,633 Party: None	When some of the 958 are elected, can they operate as groups with group leaders. Seems this hasn't happened much before. I would think that getting councillors elected will help UKIP to be A. Not seen as a one-trick pony and B. Have some local political gravitas! __________________ www.westminster-whispers.blogspot.com

17-04-2007, 08:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
Keyser Soze Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 204	I would say that as far as I know the numbers have not been finalised by UKIP.Am I wrong on this?

17-04-2007, 08:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 9,455 Party: None	http://www.vote-2007.co.uk/index.php?topic=771.75 Jonathan Arnott is/was the UKIP local elections coordinator, so his numbers should be reasonably accurate. On the assumption that the 'ball park' number is just under 1000, is this good? To put it in context, according to Iain Dale (who gave inaccurate UKIP numbers), the Tories have 9,264, Labour have 6,360, the Lib Dems have 6,667 and the BNP 717. The Greens have 1,394 candidates.

17-04-2007, 08:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 9,455 Party: None	I have added an 'It's OK' option to the poll. Having looked at the numbers, UKIP is putting in less than the greens, but more than the BNP. That's an OK start I think.

18-04-2007, 08:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Richard Allen Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 510	It is good progress. It would have been nice to hit 1,000 but lets not be churlish about this. For years UKIP showed almost no interest in local elections. We are finally moving in the right direction but these things take time.

18-04-2007, 12:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,596	The party as a whole needs to act with some cohesion and not be seen as a bunch of nutters and fruitcakes (to quote some moron) There must be coordination and cooperation at all levels __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."

18-04-2007, 12:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
KeyStage2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,914	It's a good effort

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