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View Poll Results: Is there an establishment plot to close UKIP down?
Yes 43 63.24%
No 17 25.00%
Not Sure 8 11.76%
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Old 28-02-2007, 08:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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UKIP does have failings, but the accounts are bound to have weaknesses when they are largely supervised by sincere people working long hours for their country for no money. The Labour and Conservtaive parties have full time people working for them and have a large measure of control over judges and the media. Therefore Mr Bown forgetting to fill in his electoral registration form is a serious matter: MPs wives being paid as researchers, girlfriends' train fares being paid by state funds or Cameron using public buildings to screw money out of Conservative supporters for having dinner with him are minor things. I am not generally one for conspiracy theories but it is odd that a public servant at the electoral commission has been able to scrutinise years of electoral register entries and records of which cheques were paid into 5 bank accounts and when. UKIP has been allowed by the establishment to advance so far, but being now on 5% of voters there is athreat that we could disrupt treh slotting in of lackies to council seats by letting real democracy into the process. they cannot have the people dictating to the councillors now can they? :shock:
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Old 28-02-2007, 09:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Default Europhile establishment want to destroy UKIP

I have just voted Yes to the poll at the top of the page.

The europhile political establishment which runs this country would very much like to destroy UKIP.

UKIP destabilises the political system from their point of view. They take the view that things were so much more straightforward in elections before UKIP appeared on the scene.

The pro-EU metro-establishment don't quite know what effect UKIP will have on the vote in a constituency. Will UKIP pull more from the Conservatives or Labour they ask themselves. Or will UKIP cut into the Liberal Dim vote instead? And although in certain constituencies UKIP may have taken more votes from the Conservatives last time - the europhiles in those seats worry whether UKIP will take votes from Labour next time instead.

The establishment is unable to predict what impact UKIP has in elections. The old 'electoral certainties' which they took comfort in have gone since UKIP was formed.

Nothing would please the europhile political establishment more than to see UKIP close down, collapse, fold or go into decline.

But UKIP is not going to go away and the establishment are having some trouble getting their mind around that fact.
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Old 28-02-2007, 01:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The establishment love UKIP they are the last barricade they have to stop the BNP.
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Old 28-02-2007, 01:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The establishment do not love UKIP, they are terrified of UKIP or any smaller party seeking to smash the Lab/Con/Lib coalition because they are also part of it.

This is why they spend so much time telling us that UKIP and the like cannot win under FPP
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The establishment do not love UKIP, they are terrified of UKIP or any smaller party seeking to smash the Lab/Con/Lib coalition because they are also part of it.

This is why they spend so much time telling us that UKIP and the like cannot win under FPP

Look how often UKIP appears on the BBC compared to the BNP.
Even on immigration matters UKIP gets invited on and the BNP does not.
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Default UKIP, the BBC and the BNP

UKIP has ten members of the EU 'Parliament' (unlike the BNP). It's hard for the biased pro-EU BBC to ignore that fact. Especially since Lord Pearson (now in UKIP) complained several years ago to the BBC about their clear bias in favour of the EU and people who support it.
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So why have the EC not investigated the now imprisoned Dim-Lib supporter who gave 2.4m and made them pay it to Gordon the Moron
and why does the Indian steel magnate who has given the nulab party so much not been investigated ?
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All organisations or individuals who are energetically and ubiquitously critical of the EU-are targeted for neutralisation.
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Neutralisation? By whom?

Don't be silly. The EU does not have a private army of ninjas out to kill all dissenters.
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Neutralisation? By whom?
Don't be silly. The EU does not have a private army of ninjas out to kill all dissenters.
I dare you to call into a local chat show and make the following statement: " I feel that immigration is a bad thing for Britain and all migrants should return to their respective points of origin."

The Ninjas will come out of the woodwork.

If you believe the EU is anything but a defacto police State where free speech is contingent upon correct ideological thinking, you have my deepest admiration. I wish I too was capable of surrendering my liberty, my National identity, and my self-respect with such cheerful indifference.

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