Can condoms save Africa?

youcanhandlethetruth · 24-02-2008, 09:37 PM

The truth about AIDS may be a lot different to what we think.....

AIDS Link to Smallpox Vaccine

The above article originated from the London Times on 11 May 1987.

Here are some other articles:

The AIDS virus: Made in the USA?

Aids HIV Bayer [msnbc video]

The Bear · 25-02-2008, 07:40 AM

Tribalism and civilisation are mutually exclusive.

Olympic Flame · 04-03-2008, 03:15 PM

An authoritarian but effective government to stop ethnic riot/killing, disproportionately high brith rate and social chaos and encourage the building of basic infrastructure for education, vocational training, labour intensive sectors to solve unemployment.

Then talk about democracy and human rights later.

youcanhandlethetruth · 04-03-2008, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olympic Flame

An authoritarian but effective government to stop ethnic riot/killing, disproportionately high brith rate and social chaos and encourage the building of basic infrastructure for education, vocational training, labour intensive sectors to solve unemployment.

Then talk about democracy and human rights later.

Are you talking about Africa here ?

Roland · 04-03-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by freedom & democracy 4

I was watching a report on Sky News, where these Africans were protesting against capitalism. I thought to myself capitalism is not causing their problems, its their inability to stop over-breeding and fighting eachother. So i thought, could the condom save Africa on the overbreeding, HIV/AIDS front?

Condoms aye. Lets look at this country every one buys em but no one actually uses them. The rare occasion a couple are in bed and do decide to use them a condom will generally be worn for 5-10 minuets before both parties decide to get rid of it. Thats my experience of condoms from well aware and well educated Britain.

I doubt they are much use in developing Africa.

kernow · 04-03-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland

Condoms aye. Lets look at this country every one buys em but no one actually uses them. The rare occasion a couple are in bed and do decide to use them a condom will generally be worn for 5-10 minuets before both parties decide to get rid of it. Thats my experience of condoms from well aware and well educated Britain.

I doubt they are much use in developing Africa.

Unfortunately you are right! If Tribal Wars are still taking place now in the 21st century, they're hardly likely to worry about using condoms!

AlanA · 08-03-2008, 12:12 PM

Knowing the African mentality, they will probably put the condom over their head, and go and rob a bank !

The Bear · 09-03-2008, 10:28 AM

Why even try to save Africa? Why not do the right thing and leave the whole damm place to evolve into whatever it is going to evolve into and deal with what emerges.

We evolved into what we are. If some outside interference had “saved” us during our progression along our evolutionary path we would in all probability still be living in mud huts. (well, probably not mud especially with the weather just recently) but the principle stands.

It’s not a nice thought and even worse to see a child starving for want of a crust after its parents have spent what cash they have on a new gun or a packet of the local equivalent of Woodbine but the genes that the parent had will be lost from the pool by the kid dying and not passing the gene set to another generation.

The trouble is that in the case of most of us in our genome are genes that make us much more compassionate and willing to share with others for a common good. We had to be to survive the climate. For that characteristic quite apart from the Christian morality that still is there in OUR culture to interfere with the Darwinian development of African people may give us a warm glow but is doing them no good at all and in fact harm in the long term.

What is really needed is not hand outs, it’s trade, what is needed is not modern medicines against AIDS and the like, it’s letting the societies absorb the principle that immorality equates to death.

Hard, but then nature is.

It is, of course, never going to happen. To much political kudos to be gained for politicians by sticking their noses in and the do-gooders have a fit of the vapors at the very thought of evolution in practice. .

Roland · 10-03-2008, 10:29 AM

The Bear

Horrible as it is that is the cold hard truth.

Thats the same point as I was trying to make about the middle east.

You can't carpet bomb or impose democracy.

A country needs to find it's own way and learn by it's own mistakes and fight it's own revolutions.

As far as I can tell helping the developing world means little more than using money from the west to pay off bank loans the banks other wise would never have got.

As for helping these people why would thew likes of the UN when they keep going on about population reduction.

It's the same as with global warming their is so much that could be genuinly done yet that is not the true plan.

youcanhandlethetruth · 10-03-2008, 02:29 PM

It's a question of controlling African through sterilization, population reduction and stopping growth.
"Helping Africa" is just the myth they use to spin their control agenda whilst they ask people to cough up the money and run a mile for sports relief.
How sick....

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25-02-2008, 07:40 AM	#32 (permalink)
The Bear Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 1,692	Tribalism and civilisation are mutually exclusive.

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Olympic Flame Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 192	An authoritarian but effective government to stop ethnic riot/killing, disproportionately high brith rate and social chaos and encourage the building of basic infrastructure for education, vocational training, labour intensive sectors to solve unemployment. Then talk about democracy and human rights later.

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AlanA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bolton Posts: 179	Knowing the African mentality, they will probably put the condom over their head, and go and rob a bank !

09-03-2008, 10:28 AM	#38 (permalink)
The Bear Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 1,692	Why even try to save Africa? Why not do the right thing and leave the whole damm place to evolve into whatever it is going to evolve into and deal with what emerges. We evolved into what we are. If some outside interference had “saved” us during our progression along our evolutionary path we would in all probability still be living in mud huts. (well, probably not mud especially with the weather just recently) but the principle stands. It’s not a nice thought and even worse to see a child starving for want of a crust after its parents have spent what cash they have on a new gun or a packet of the local equivalent of Woodbine but the genes that the parent had will be lost from the pool by the kid dying and not passing the gene set to another generation. The trouble is that in the case of most of us in our genome are genes that make us much more compassionate and willing to share with others for a common good. We had to be to survive the climate. For that characteristic quite apart from the Christian morality that still is there in OUR culture to interfere with the Darwinian development of African people may give us a warm glow but is doing them no good at all and in fact harm in the long term. What is really needed is not hand outs, it’s trade, what is needed is not modern medicines against AIDS and the like, it’s letting the societies absorb the principle that immorality equates to death. Hard, but then nature is. It is, of course, never going to happen. To much political kudos to be gained for politicians by sticking their noses in and the do-gooders have a fit of the vapors at the very thought of evolution in practice. .

10-03-2008, 10:29 AM	#39 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 855	The Bear Horrible as it is that is the cold hard truth. Thats the same point as I was trying to make about the middle east. You can't carpet bomb or impose democracy. A country needs to find it's own way and learn by it's own mistakes and fight it's own revolutions. As far as I can tell helping the developing world means little more than using money from the west to pay off bank loans the banks other wise would never have got. As for helping these people why would thew likes of the UN when they keep going on about population reduction. It's the same as with global warming their is so much that could be genuinly done yet that is not the true plan.