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View Poll Results: What should the National Anthem be?
Keep God Save the Queen 17 32.08%
Jerusalem 7 13.21%
I Vow to Thee My Country 3 5.66%
Land of Hope and Glory 11 20.75%
Rule Britannia 11 20.75%
Other 4 7.55%
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Old 15-04-2008, 05:04 AM   #71 (permalink)
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I do agree that invading other countries is morally wrong but you must also think what would have happened to the world if we hadn't invaded them. They would have been subjected, instead, to Spanish aggression which left the Aztec and Inca civilisations all but destroyed.

It's all well and good looking at history through modern eyes but you must also keep in mind the realities of the time. Learn from mistakes and misadventures but refrain from judging unless you are completely sure you can be fair in doing so.

I would argue that on the whole the British Empire was a force for good in the world, not evil.
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I do agree that invading other countries is morally wrong but you must also think what would have happened to the world if we hadn't invaded them. They would have been subjected, instead, to Spanish aggression which left the Aztec and Inca civilisations all but destroyed.

It's all well and good looking at history through modern eyes but you must also keep in mind the realities of the time. Learn from mistakes and misadventures but refrain from judging unless you are completely sure you can be fair in doing so.

I would argue that on the whole the British Empire was a force for good in the world, not evil.
I'd say it was a force for evil with some good in it. I don't think calling it a force for good is right because it encourages people that such behaviour as invading and conquering is fine.

We can certainly look at the historical context and comment that others were doing it as well. The most important thing is condemning similar conduct today.
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I'd say it was a force for evil with some good in it. I don't think calling it a force for good is right because it encourages people that such behaviour as invading and conquering is fine.
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God save the Queen. Its a very strong and moving anthem for me, i love our anthem.
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The British Empire came about almost by accident and was driven by trade not conquest of course if British traders are attacked what's a man to do but defend and protect.

Compared to every other empire the British one was for the times quite benevolent e.g.
Pax Brittanica
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The British Empire came about almost by accident and was driven by trade not conquest of course if British traders are attacked what's a man to do but defend and protect.
That is just ******** I'm afraid.

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Abolishing slavery
Artificial famines which caused the deaths of tens of millions in British India?
Restraining the settlers in America before 1776
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