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    Mebyon Kernow is an internationalist and outward-looking political party. We are pro-European and reject the inward-looking agenda and jingoistic rhetoric of groups like UKIP. There is nothing positive about their attempts to foster division and disunity throughout Europe.

    It is our belief that nations and regions throughout the World should work together to foster global peace and stability. Indeed, the strongest argument for working together in Europe remains the two World Wars which ripped the continent apart.

    But that does not mean we are uncritical of how the EU is presently constituted. MK along with many other progressive groups is campaigning for the increased democratisation of the EU, greater transparency and increased Cornish representation.

    The Europe of today is one of centralisation, limited democratic control, big business and bureaucracy. These priorities are utterly wrong and European fishing and farming policies have failed largely through the intransigence and incompetence of state governments.

    Mebyon Kernow believe that sovereignty resides with the people, and that responsibility for decision-making should be retained at the most local level possible. Our compelling task is to build a decentralised Europe on this basic principle, which means we must limit the centralisation of powers both to Europe and to the current state capitals such as London and Paris.We must create a new Europe that is relevant to the needs of ordinary people.

    In Mebyon Kernow's Europe of regions and historic nations, Cornwall, Wales, etc, would have a greater say in how they are governed, and would also send their own representatives to Europe in place of the indifferent ministers from London.

    Mebyon Kernow is committed to:-

    A democratic and accountable Europe, with a clear division of responsibilities between the different levels of government, according to the principle of subsidiarity.
    A Europe that works for the Peoples of Europe, not big business.
    A Europe of the Regions. The enormous cultural diversity of Europe is a strength which must be guarded, enhanced and harnessed through a constitutional recognition of its historic cultural and social regions such as Cornwall.
    A Europe that uses its immense economic and political power to promote social, economic and political justice throughout the world.

    I wonder when Mebyon Kernow will join the Socialist International.

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    Plaid have been helping our friends in MK along
    - is it any wonder they share our and SNPs outward looking approach to Euorpe and the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by max fm View Post
    Plaid have been helping our friends in MK along
    - is it any wonder they share our and SNPs outward looking approach to Euorpe and the world?
    'Independance' within the EU.
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    God! Andrew, Independence (nice spelling) can be attained while being part of the EU.

    Your far too backwards thinking. The EU is the UK's main trading partner, amongst other things - family ties for one? You'd want to have to apply for a visa to go to France? or ANYWHERE IN EUROPE?

    We're better in than out. And the independent, sovereign nations of Scotland, England, Wales.. and NI.. would be far better represented.

    I agree with many of MK's statements and campaigns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJK View Post
    God! Andrew, Independence (nice spelling) can be attained while being part of the EU.

    Your far too backwards thinking. The EU is the UK's main trading partner, amongst other things - family ties for one? You'd want to have to apply for a visa to go to France? or ANYWHERE IN EUROPE?

    We're better in than out. And the independent, sovereign nations of Scotland, England, Wales.. and NI.. would be far better represented.

    I agree with many of MK's statements and campaigns.
    The EU needs us more than we need it, even Kinnock saw that when he was a commisioner, he admitted our withdrwal would not negatively affect us economically or politically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJK View Post
    God! Andrew, Independence (nice spelling) can be attained while being part of the EU.
    No country within the EU is independent. How can a country without a currency of its own and without legislators of their own call themselves independent?

    Quote Originally Posted by RJK View Post
    Your far too backwards thinking. The EU is the UK's main trading partner, amongst other things - family ties for one? You'd want to have to apply for a visa to go to France? or ANYWHERE IN EUROPE?.
    The EU is Switzerland's main trading partner, but they are not in the EU. We can arrange free trade agreements (like Mexico has) with the EU without beign a part of it. Free trade is not a benefit exclusive to EU provinces.


    Quote Originally Posted by RJK View Post
    ... the independent, sovereign nations of Scotland, England, Wales.. and NI.. would be far better represented.
    Nither of those countries would be independent or sovereign in the EU.
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    We are still English, Scottish, Welsh, Cornish, Manx and so on within the Union of Britain and we are still British, Irish, French, German, Italian, Breton, Bavarian, Lombard, Roman and so on within the European Union. There is no loss of national and regional identity and we pool our sovereignties together in Europe. There is a case for reform with the elected European Parliament replacing the bureaucratic, tyrannical 'European Commission' of failed political rejects. We are moving towards the creation of a United European State, "Europe a Nation" proposed by Sir Oswald Mosley after the Brother's War, just as much a Nation as the Union of England, Scotland and Wales to form the British Nation.

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    But the thing is the Acts of Union doesn`t act on fairness. Change the Act`s of Union to be fairer on Wales, Scotland, Cornwall, Manx and maybe (well I wouldnt), we will talk about a Federal Union of Britian. How can the Westminister Goverment expect us to be quiet about it. Wales is not even on the Union Flag!!!
    Wales, Scotland, Cornwall and N.I would be better governed by its own institutions, goverments than an English bais one.
    Europe is the only institution that has given Welsh language rights in its goverment chambers ( thanks for a Plaid Cymru MEP ) and its the European Union that has official regonize it as a living language. I think in Westminister Welsh is still banned from use.. How backwards is that?

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    There is no loss of national and regional identity and we pool our sovereignties together in Europe.


    What absolute drivel. When the EU is doing its utmost to encourage people to migrate around Europe, thus mixing up and undermining all sense of national identity, when they are doing their utmost to destroy national differences, to make everyone learn English, and standardise every aspect of life within the EU, then where does that one come from?

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    And I add, off course seperate English, Scottish and Welsh identity has been lost as a result of the making of the United Kingdom in the British Isles (Irish somewhat less because of the geography, but still considerably). Had they remained seperate states, with borders and no free movement , then there would be far far greater cultural differentiation today, the Scots still speaking the language of Burns the Gaelic far stronger, and Welsh probably spoken across the whole of Wales.There would of course have been negatives too, and the history of the (tiny) countries comprising the British Isles would have been very different, and the people likely economically poorer.

    Whatever, what is done is done, and cannot be undone. ALL the former nations of the UK are now very much intermingled, one people, sharing a 99% common culture, and with large chunks of the populations of all the formerly independent countries sntermarried and interbred with each other.

    This is the aim of the EU, to end seperate ethnic groups and nations in Europe, all the better to create disunity and control us. Of course they will pay lip service to ethncity, and when everyone can speak English and that is the lanaguage of thje workplace, they will bring in measures to support the indigenous languages, of Dutch and Danish, Polish and Slovak etc as these languages follow Welsh onto the 'at risk' lists which of course they will when they become the languages only of the 'home' and outsiders and immigrants have no need to learn them.

    We are already moving rapidly towards that. On the BBC just yesterday I heard it said that this is becoming the situation in the Netherlands, where English is becoming the language of the workplace.
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