cassie

Let me put it more directly in a larger font: How does changing the Liberal Party into another 'libertarian party' result in "our own nuclear deterrent being developed"?

In other words, would you kindly explain the process rather than implying all kinds of unstated things?


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In answer to your news question.
I never said it did.

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cassie

So, the two lines of thought in Post#46 are unconnected then, and the insertion of a so called Libertarians just whimsy?

HMMmm! Very interestink!




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The two lines of thought should have been east to spot by the bit in bold below.
Not hard to follow is it!

To much is made of the UK's independent nuclear deterrent.
We don’t actually have one as it's controlled by the USA.

As for the Liberal party given its internal democracy if a large number of Libertarians joined the party they could change it into a Libertarian party

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cassie

Yes, I suppose so, but it begs the question of what benefits accrue from another Libertarian party and one less Liberal Party?


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It would be of tactical benefits for the Libertarians to take over the Liberal party.

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cassie

Yeah, I suppose it is much easier to destroy am opposing political party rather than try to attract support from the 45 million voters out there!

Really libertarian to reduce choice, eh!





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I despise Libertarianism but if I was a Libertarian that is what I would do.
Return the Liberal party to Classical Liberal.

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Tom Wilde

Many thanks for this insight into your political modus operandum. Which party do you support, as a matter of interest?

Actually, I am a classical liberal. Liberal Party economic policy is currently somewhat to the left of what it would be if I were writing it myself from scratch, but having only just switched my support to the party a few months ago I'm not about to try to change it. And I wouldn't dream of trying to engineer the kind of takeover you describe! I like the Liberal Party as it is, and think it may have a great future, but if the differences between my economic views and party policy ever became uncomfortable to me, then I'd simply go over to the Libertarian Party instead.

Tom Wilde

Here is the updated list of Liberal Party councillor numbers, taking into account the recent defection of Cllr Ann Hines in Liverpool from the LibDems. Of course this list is accurate only for the next two weeks - after that, we'll just have to see. (Where is a fingers crossed smiley when you need one?)

County Councillors
Worcestershire County Council: 2
Cornwall County Council: 1

District, Borough and City Councillors
Wyre Forest District Council: 7 (the Liberal group is the 3rd strongest on council, bigger than Labour or the LibDems)
Exeter City Council: 4
Liverpool City Council: 4 (one defected from LibDems 2 weeks ago)
Peterborough City Council: 3
Torridge District Council: 3 (all of whom defected from LibDems in August)
Slough Borough Council: 3
Ryedale District Council: 1
Kerrier District Council: 1
Gateshead Council: 1
Wolverhampton City Council: 1

Total: 28 district, borough or city councillors, and 3 county councillors.

Incidentally, as well as the scheduled May 1st elections, we'll be contesting some byelections on the same day. These include a council seat in Bournemouth, I believe.