Tom Wilde

Me too. Some of the worst and most cynical politicians in the world are ones who will tell you that they are 'just realists'.

Cassie, thanks for reposting your earlier post. So far as I can tell, you are saying that regardless of your own personal views about scrapping weapons of mass destruction, you think it a waste of time for a party to have such a policy, because such a party won't get elected. Is that more or less it?

cassie

Yes Tom!

Political parties need to decide their priorities ie the issues that they are really going to campaign on. One might say that the core of UKIP's policies is extricating the UK from the EU. Similarly, one might say that the EDP's principal policy is securing a separate parliament & executive for England, and leaving the EU a secondary policy, albeit very important.

One has to ask what is the point of compromising one's principal objectives with a policy which, although idealistic, is actually a vote loser? Of course if the said policy concerning weapons of mass destruction is regarded as being of overwhelming importance to a political party, then I guess that party must campaign on that issue. If it is not, one has to ask: what are the Liberals core policies?

It is the refusal of individuals to compromise over certain issues which can drive them into leaving a particular party. The EDP has just suffered losing some members over the issue of independence for England. As we all know, an alternative course is to remain in membership and seek to change policy for whatever reason. Individuals must decide these things for themselves.

Does that explain things a little more?


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Ihope

Which weapons of mass destruction do the liberals agree with keeping? Do they agree with keeping non lethals? If so which ones:-
1. Lasers?
2. Tasers?
3. Active denial?
4. Other electromagnetic weapons?
All can be lethal.

Ihope

The thing is Cassie, they all say they will campaign on all the major issues but when they get in it is a different story. Ukpopdems say they will listen to the people more. Do you think Brown is listening to the people more? If so in what way?

cassie

Yes, I do!

However, it's not the right people . . . it's not us, the great mass of ordinary voters.

He listens to so-called experts whom he has appointed, who were not even elected. Experts like Lord Darsi who, reputation has it, is a 'brilliant surgeon' but who is expected to be an administrator and who, without a general election mandate per party manifesto (what matters that anyway!) threatens to destroy the GP Service in England's NHS!



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British-Conservatism

To much is made of the UK's independent nuclear deterrent.
We don’t actually have one as it's controlled by the USA.

As for the Liberal party given its internal democracy if a large number of Libertarians joined the party they could change it into a Libertarian party.

cassie

Ahem! How does that affect the matter of nuclear deterrence?


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We need to develop our own nuclear deterrent.

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cassie

How does that assertion relate to: "As for the Liberal party given its internal democracy if a large number of Libertarians joined the [Liberals] party they could change it into a Libertarian party."?


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Here is my post at 46 again.
Have another read.
Ill put bit's in bold to help you.

To much is made of the UK's independent nuclear deterrent.
We don’t actually have one as it's controlled by the USA.

As for the Liberal party given its internal democracy if a large number of Libertarians joined the party they could change it into a Libertarian party.

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