Europhile Liberal Dims fall in new opinion poll – not good news for Clegg:

Britannist · 05-02-2008, 05:44 AM

Europhile Liberal Dims fall in new opinion poll

– not good news for Clegg:

Poll sees Tories shrug off Derek Conway sleaze affair - Times Online

Britannist · 05-02-2008, 05:47 AM

Brief edited extract from today's Times about the new Populus poll:

"The poll puts Labour on 31% (down 2% in a month), the Conservatives on 40% (up 3%), the Liberal 'Democrats' on 17% (down 2% on last month). This contrasts with an ICM poll in The Sunday Telegraph, done on Wednesday and Thursday, which put the Tories on 37% (down 3% on a month ago), Labour on 32% (down 1%) and the Liberal 'Democrats' on 21% (up 3%). The month-to-month fluctuations are largely because of shifts between the Tories and the Lib 'Democrats'. These may reflect short-term factors such as which party has been more in the news, and what they have been doing. The Conway affair has not altered the public’s view that both main parties are about the same on sleaze, at 73%, up six points since March 2006."

mkpdavies · 05-02-2008, 08:20 AM

I don't believe any polls any more. I simply refuse to beleive they shift around much at all now. The Yank elections really have opened my eyes to the massive amount of rigging and manipulation that goes on.

22ANDUK · 05-02-2008, 03:08 PM

I ALWAYS say, so I'm sorry - but polls influence rather than reflect public opinion.

I have yet to met a non-political person who actually knows who Nick Clegg is, at least people with little interest in politics knew who Ashdown and Kennedy were.

kernow · 05-02-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 22ANDUK

I have yet to met a non-political person who actually knows who Nick Clegg is, at least people with little interest in politics knew who Ashdown and Kennedy were.

I think if truth were known, we'd be shocked at just how many people don't know who Gordon Brown is! I'd bet more people know who David Beckham is, compared to the number who know who Gordon Brown is!

Britannist · 06-02-2008, 07:12 AM

Years ago I read of research which had found that the majority of people in many constituencies did not know the name of their local MP.

Britannist · 06-02-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 22ANDUK

I have yet to met a non-political person who actually knows who Nick Clegg is.....

Let's hope it stays that way - europhile Clegg's obsessively pro-EU Liberal 'Democrat' party are a nasty bunch.

rjt · 06-02-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Years ago I read of research which had found that the majority of people in many constituencies did not know the name of their local MP.

Regretably I know the name of mine, Gerald Howarth ( Aldershot) although he is good on social issues and sympathetic to pro life arguments as well as voting against the Lisbon Treaty

His predecesor Mr Critchley was a Europhile of the worst order, I sung with joy when he retired

Britannist · 06-02-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rjt

Regrettably I know the name of mine, Gerald Howarth (Aldershot). His predecessor Mr. Critchley was a europhile of the worst order - I sung with joy when he retired.

You weren't the only one.

rjt · 06-02-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

You weren't the only one.

Indeed he was lucky to have such a safe seat, during Mrs Thatchers time after he had refered to her as a great she elephant he was recomended to the iron lady for a knighthood. The poor official shrank in terror when she exploded, ' over my dead body!'. Regretably her europhile succesor Major did award him one, probably at Heseltines insistance as Critichley was a big supporter of his.

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Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,325	Brief edited extract Brief edited extract from today's Times about the new Populus poll: "The poll puts Labour on 31% (down 2% in a month), the Conservatives on 40% (up 3%), the Liberal 'Democrats' on 17% (down 2% on last month). This contrasts with an ICM poll in The Sunday Telegraph, done on Wednesday and Thursday, which put the Tories on 37% (down 3% on a month ago), Labour on 32% (down 1%) and the Liberal 'Democrats' on 21% (up 3%). The month-to-month fluctuations are largely because of shifts between the Tories and the Lib 'Democrats'. These may reflect short-term factors such as which party has been more in the news, and what they have been doing. The Conway affair has not altered the public’s view that both main parties are about the same on sleaze, at 73%, up six points since March 2006."

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22ANDUK Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,321	I ALWAYS say, so I'm sorry - but polls influence rather than reflect public opinion. I have yet to met a non-political person who actually knows who Nick Clegg is, at least people with little interest in politics knew who Ashdown and Kennedy were.