Lib Dems only opinion?

reg · 18-12-2007, 03:47 PM

I am someone who wants the UK to withdraw from the EU.But with Brown now having signed the new EU treaty.I am no lib dem supporter however the lib dems are the only mainstream Party out of the three leading Parties to offer us at least a chance to have our say on a vote on the UK membership of the EU.They would campaign I know to stay in but at least it will give us a chance to have a vote.Indeed it may be our only chance of ever having a chance of withdrawing from the EU. As labour and the Tories wont even offer us a chance UKIP are no where to be seen and on the way out.I will be voting lib dem at the next election they might well hold the balance of power. there is no alternative party to vote for.Comments please

steve fowler · 18-12-2007, 03:56 PM

I would'nt touch the Lib Dems the even if i was payed an mps wages to do so, **** the lib,lab,con partys they will say anything to trick the public into thinking we still run our country UKIP isnt perfect but they are trying.

Hartlepool · 18-12-2007, 04:34 PM

Nothing has changed about the LIB-DEMS,they are still 100%for the EU.
The CONS and LABS are a bit less pro EU,but only a bit.
So,you want out?
You go UKIP because only UKIP are 100% for getting out of the EU.

reg · 18-12-2007, 05:32 PM

UKIP are split from top to bottom and incapable of showing leadership with all there internal bickering.I only wished they could show leadership then I wouldnt hesitate voting for them.They really need to up there game or they could well disppear come the next Euro Elections.The Anti EU movement is in no mans land. And I really dont think UKIP can be any force what so ever if we are to stand any chance of leaving the EU.People will look at the options available and I think the only available offer on the table at present is voting lib dem and they may just hold the balance of power after the next gen election and hopefully.we just might get the chance of voting on the UK EU membership.whats the alternative.????

stathan · 18-12-2007, 05:52 PM

You really must stop your propensity for exaggeration!

Just what exactly are you basing your claim that UKIP are split from top to bottom on?

1) Your own hopes and wishes?

2) The slagging off of UKIP by a couple of losers on this board who were unable to get their own way and have left the party?

3) Those who have never been in the party and use this board to spread anti UKIP gossip for their own ends?

We all have differing views and opinions but in general there doesn't seem to be much in the way of " Top to Bottom splits" when I meet and speak to party members and activists.

Pull your shoulders back, stand up straight, and get a grip!!!

reg · 18-12-2007, 06:08 PM

I only wish UKIP were capable of getting us a referendum in getting the UK to leave the EU.They are showing no leadership what so ever thats not Anti UKIP thats the truth.There for if they cant get us out of the EU whats the alternative.??????

Hartlepool · 18-12-2007, 06:20 PM

You mean we should all join you in the LIB-DEM PRO EU PARTY,reg?

On yer bike sonny,go back to making up LIB-DEM lies to present to the electorate.

You LIB-DUMERS are far too easy to spot

reg · 18-12-2007, 07:01 PM

I just want to repeat I am NO LIB DEM SUPPORTER and it would be very very difficult for me ever voting for them.I would have to have my fingers crossed behind my back when doing so however I have asked whats the alternative to getting us at present out of the EU???I certaintly dont think it will be UKIP they may have 500 or so candidates at the next gen election with almost nearly all of them losing there deposits.There for the question is how do we get a vote on leaving the EU because it wont be UKIP holding the balance of power after the next gen election. I only wish it was.If theres a hung parliament and the only party offering us a chance on leaving the EU is the lib dems I will vote for them. I know they will campaign to stay in yes but we all then can come together in the Anti EU movement and campaign together to vote to come out.WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE if you have one I will listen and if you can get us a vote I will vote for it but as yet I have had no Alternative put to my question on this thread.

Hartlepool · 18-12-2007, 08:44 PM

Gimme break reg,pull the other one.

reg · 18-12-2007, 11:02 PM

I only wish UKIP could show us the way on the Issue of the EU but they simply cant.There has yet on this thread being no Ideas as to how we are going to get out of the EU.I would like Ideas?? so people could think about voting for it.But there isnt any on offer at present being offered on here.At the moment I see no alternative being put forward.Thats why I will at present be voting lib dem

18-12-2007, 03:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	Lib Dems only opinion? I am someone who wants the UK to withdraw from the EU.But with Brown now having signed the new EU treaty.I am no lib dem supporter however the lib dems are the only mainstream Party out of the three leading Parties to offer us at least a chance to have our say on a vote on the UK membership of the EU.They would campaign I know to stay in but at least it will give us a chance to have a vote.Indeed it may be our only chance of ever having a chance of withdrawing from the EU. As labour and the Tories wont even offer us a chance UKIP are no where to be seen and on the way out.I will be voting lib dem at the next election they might well hold the balance of power. there is no alternative party to vote for.Comments please

18-12-2007, 03:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nr Birmingham Posts: 1,065	I would'nt touch the Lib Dems the even if i was payed an mps wages to do so, **** the lib,lab,con partys they will say anything to trick the public into thinking we still run our country UKIP isnt perfect but they are trying. __________________ RULE BRITANNIA BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES, BRITONS NEVER EVER SHALL BE SLAVE'S. Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. Winston Churchill. When Labour won the 1997 General Election, Enoch Powell told his wife that the electorate had voted to break up the United Kingdom.

18-12-2007, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	I just want to repeat I am NO LIB DEM SUPPORTER and it would be very very difficult for me ever voting for them.I would have to have my fingers crossed behind my back when doing so however I have asked whats the alternative to getting us at present out of the EU???I certaintly dont think it will be UKIP they may have 500 or so candidates at the next gen election with almost nearly all of them losing there deposits.There for the question is how do we get a vote on leaving the EU because it wont be UKIP holding the balance of power after the next gen election. I only wish it was.If theres a hung parliament and the only party offering us a chance on leaving the EU is the lib dems I will vote for them. I know they will campaign to stay in yes but we all then can come together in the Anti EU movement and campaign together to vote to come out.WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE if you have one I will listen and if you can get us a vote I will vote for it but as yet I have had no Alternative put to my question on this thread. Last edited by reg; 18-12-2007 at 07:07 PM. Reason: correction

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18-12-2007, 04:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,069	Nothing has changed about the LIB-DEMS,they are still 100%for the EU. The CONS and LABS are a bit less pro EU,but only a bit. So,you want out? You go UKIP because only UKIP are 100% for getting out of the EU.

18-12-2007, 05:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	UKIP are split from top to bottom and incapable of showing leadership with all there internal bickering.I only wished they could show leadership then I wouldnt hesitate voting for them.They really need to up there game or they could well disppear come the next Euro Elections.The Anti EU movement is in no mans land. And I really dont think UKIP can be any force what so ever if we are to stand any chance of leaving the EU.People will look at the options available and I think the only available offer on the table at present is voting lib dem and they may just hold the balance of power after the next gen election and hopefully.we just might get the chance of voting on the UK EU membership.whats the alternative.????

18-12-2007, 05:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
stathan Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 328	You really must stop your propensity for exaggeration! Just what exactly are you basing your claim that UKIP are split from top to bottom on? 1) Your own hopes and wishes? 2) The slagging off of UKIP by a couple of losers on this board who were unable to get their own way and have left the party? 3) Those who have never been in the party and use this board to spread anti UKIP gossip for their own ends? We all have differing views and opinions but in general there doesn't seem to be much in the way of " Top to Bottom splits" when I meet and speak to party members and activists. Pull your shoulders back, stand up straight, and get a grip!!!

18-12-2007, 06:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	I only wish UKIP were capable of getting us a referendum in getting the UK to leave the EU.They are showing no leadership what so ever thats not Anti UKIP thats the truth.There for if they cant get us out of the EU whats the alternative.??????

18-12-2007, 06:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,069	You mean we should all join you in the LIB-DEM PRO EU PARTY,reg? On yer bike sonny,go back to making up LIB-DEM lies to present to the electorate. You LIB-DUMERS are far too easy to spot

18-12-2007, 08:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,069	Gimme break reg,pull the other one.

18-12-2007, 11:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
reg Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	I only wish UKIP could show us the way on the Issue of the EU but they simply cant.There has yet on this thread being no Ideas as to how we are going to get out of the EU.I would like Ideas?? so people could think about voting for it.But there isnt any on offer at present being offered on here.At the moment I see no alternative being put forward.Thats why I will at present be voting lib dem