Liberal Democrat 'Dream Ticket'

mkpdavies · 11-12-2007, 11:21 PM

He does have a point. The Libby Dems are the only one of the 3 old parties that offer a referendum. Whether they would deliver on that promise, is unknown and probably never will be known.

Michael Heaver · 12-12-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jason phillips

What is undemocratic about giving us Brits a say in whether we want to be part of the EU or not? Direct Democracy is not undemocratic. Proportional representation is a lot better than 1st past the post in terms of democracy.

They only want a referendum on the entire membership issue because they believe they can win it and therefore further the advancement of Britain's commitment to the European Union (which they want). That's a strategic political move, not a matter of well intended principle with the British people at heart.

I'm sure the LibDems don't support a referendum on the EU "Constititonal Treaty"?

rjt · 12-12-2007, 11:57 AM

The Lib Dems have indicated that if the Tories hold a vote in the HOC on having a referendum on this treaty they will vote with the government ensuring it gets a majority.

kernow · 12-12-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Heaver

Jason, as an ex-member of UKIP you surely understand the severity of the dangers the European Union poses Britain in the coming years?

How then can you be a member of a Party that holds, so whole heartedly, such anti-democratic values?

There's no point having "libertarian" Nick Clegg, or anybody else for that matter, as Prime Minister until the government the British people elect are the people who make the laws in the UK.

I totally agree Michael! No one can be classed as EU sceptic who wishes the Lib Dems to lead our Country. Certain MEPs from that party are openly working for the EU against their own Countries interests, so committed are they that Britain should become just a State in the United States Of Europe!
In any other era they'd have been hung for Treason!

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12-12-2007, 11:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,173	The Lib Dems have indicated that if the Tories hold a vote in the HOC on having a referendum on this treaty they will vote with the government ensuring it gets a majority. __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

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