John Carter

And yet the government says that someone on the outside (with bills to pay and food to buy) can live on something like £55 a week.

Are they giving each prisoner their own personal butler or something?

Zak64

Kernow wrote:
I note that you don't attempt to either refute or debate my argument. You just keep advocating the same old failed prohibitionist policy. You are not suggesting anything new. I am suggesting the subject should be debated logicaly, by examining facts. I'm just trying to have a sensible debate here, without any hysterics.

Kernow wrote:
Like that!

Kernow, I will ask you again. Do you think a policy that lead to a 90% reduction in drug related crime in Switzerland should be tried here?

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g hall

Didn't see that one coming

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g hall

We're not discussing burglary we're discussing which substances should be made legal to take AND there is a difference

If said drug user does not need to burgle to feed his habit isn't that far more sensible

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"This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries".
"To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."

g hall

You've seen the new human rights act then

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Westcountryman

Once again, I reiterate:

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Zak64

ModernUKIP wrote:
Errrrrm? And what have we got running about the place now?

ModernUKIP, are you seriously suggesting that the police/courts/prisons have the ability to take every single drug user off the streets now?

If they can't, what do you suggest?

You wrote earlier:
Surrender what exactly?

A surrender that sees a 90% drop in drug related crime seems like a pretty good surrender to me!

But what would I know? I'm just trying to bring about a bit of debate, using some logic and reasoning. And preferably not involving MSM generated knee jerk hysterics. As that patently hasn't helped over the last 30 years, I see no reason to respect it's pedigree now.

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kernow

Not if the British taxpayer has to pick up the tab for their self inflicted habit! What you're saying is, " Don't worry about finding the money for drugs if you become a drug addict, the taxpayer will pay"! My idea isn't a failed prohibitionist idea, simply because prohibition is a completely different thing!
When UKIP mentions immigration the Lib Dems scream racist. When I mention Zero tolerance of criminals, you Liberals scream Stalin!

Westcountryman

As the law stands, a drug abuser suffering from psychosis can be sent to prison/hospital where they can receive help (because of their offence of drug taking). If drugs were legal, they'd be allowed to stay out in the community until they did something worthy of locking them away - ie. killing/harming someone.

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Zak64

Kernow wrote:
That's because you espouse Stalinist policies.

Kernow wrote:
I rest my case.

And don't call me a Liberal, Stalinist. I'm a Libertarian.

Kernow, you still haven't answered my question. Should we in the UK adopt a similar policy that has seen a 90% drop in drug related crime elsewhere (Switzerland)?

I await a logical answer to a reasonable question.

Or, judging by previous form, I await a lot of rattle throwing.

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