'Plot to remove Campbell as Lib Dim Party leader': new claim

Britannist · 02-07-2007, 02:33 PM

"Plot to remove Campbell as leader of the europhile Liberal Dim Party": new claim -

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/ntory202.xml

rjt · 02-07-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britannist

"Plot to remove Campbell as leader of the europhile Liberal Dim Party": new claim -

:arrow:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/ntory202.xml

Would it not be wonderful for these europhiles to implode?

Britannist · 02-07-2007, 05:06 PM

Yes it certainly would.

According to one opinion poll I once read, half of the people who vote for the pro-EU Liberal Dims are either eurosceptic or totally anti-EU.

Just about the very last party such voters should be supporting is the Lib Dims - who are nothing more than the political arm of the EU in the UK.

Britannist · 02-07-2007, 06:53 PM

Simon Jenkins, columnist, wrote in the Guardian on 9.5.2007 “What are Liberal Democrats :evil: for? They are the flotsam of 20th-century politics drifting on into the 21st, coagulated from ancient clubs, cabals, splits and defections from other parties. Not since the 19th century have they cohered round any great interest. They represent no mass movement, no breaking of the political mould. Ask a Liberal Democrat what he or she is for and you get only a susurration of platitudes. Yet thanks to proportional representation this party gets to choose the governments of Scotland and Wales.”

Zak64 · 22-07-2007, 01:43 PM

After the bye-election results Ming will probably stay on. His Limp Dims did reasonably well, so the knives will have been slid quietly back into their sheaths. For now.

But with such a dopey leader I don't expect 'em to do well at the GE. Boo Hoo !

mkpdavies · 23-07-2007, 01:49 PM

If Blue Labour grew a spine and started being the opposition this country needs, then there would be no more need for the Lib Dems. Their reasons for existing shrink by the day, as the Iraq farce becomes less and less of a top tier issue.

There is a sizable majority of people now who either vote small party, or don't bother at all. They are waiting for a real alternative which neither Minge nor Dave provide.

Whoever chops out the poison at the top and then implements a peoples charter, could be the next party in power. Otherwise we will have Labour for many more years, while the small parties try and overcome the establishment bias. Then it will probably be to late.

rjt · 23-07-2007, 02:08 PM

I agree with the anyalsis of the last contibuter who has a fantastic avatar.

However for sch a force to emerge unity must be present and it is not and in my view is unlikley to be for many years to come.

Zak64 · 23-07-2007, 06:59 PM

Why isn't MKPDavies atavar available as a tee shirt from the UKIP site/shop ?

Britannist · 27-07-2007, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak Zzygote

After the bye-election results Ming will probably stay on. His Limp Dims did reasonably well, so the knives will have been slid quietly back into their sheaths. For now.

But with such a dopey leader I don't expect 'em to do well at the GE. Boo Hoo !

Campbell will come under more electoral pressure when opinion polls show that the anti-Iraq 'war' protest vote which the Liberal Dims picked up at the last General Election from Labour is returning to Labour.

At the moment Labour's rise in support in the opinion polls is being explained away as "the Brown bounce" (i.e. political 'honeymoon period' for the new Labour leader and Prime Minister) - but any 'solid' increase in numbers backing Labour is likely to be as a result of that party recovering supporters lost as a result of Blair's decision to go along with the 'invasion' of Iraq.

02-07-2007, 02:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	'Plot to remove Campbell as Lib Dim Party leader': new claim "Plot to remove Campbell as leader of the europhile Liberal Dim Party": new claim - :arrow: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/ntory202.xml

02-07-2007, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Liberal Dims, political arm of EU in UK Yes it certainly would. According to one opinion poll I once read, half of the people who vote for the pro-EU Liberal Dims are either eurosceptic or totally anti-EU. Just about the very last party such voters should be supporting is the Lib Dims - who are nothing more than the political arm of the EU in the UK.

02-07-2007, 06:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	What are the Liberal 'Democrats' for? Simon Jenkins, columnist, wrote in the Guardian on 9.5.2007 “What are Liberal Democrats :evil: for? They are the flotsam of 20th-century politics drifting on into the 21st, coagulated from ancient clubs, cabals, splits and defections from other parties. Not since the 19th century have they cohered round any great interest. They represent no mass movement, no breaking of the political mould. Ask a Liberal Democrat what he or she is for and you get only a susurration of platitudes. Yet thanks to proportional representation this party gets to choose the governments of Scotland and Wales.”

22-07-2007, 01:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zak64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Poland On Sea (Bournemouth) Posts: 695	After the bye-election results Ming will probably stay on. His Limp Dims did reasonably well, so the knives will have been slid quietly back into their sheaths. For now. But with such a dopey leader I don't expect 'em to do well at the GE. Boo Hoo ! __________________ If anyone complains about unlimited mass immigration we call them a racist - it's our culture!

23-07-2007, 01:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	If Blue Labour grew a spine and started being the opposition this country needs, then there would be no more need for the Lib Dems. Their reasons for existing shrink by the day, as the Iraq farce becomes less and less of a top tier issue. There is a sizable majority of people now who either vote small party, or don't bother at all. They are waiting for a real alternative which neither Minge nor Dave provide. Whoever chops out the poison at the top and then implements a peoples charter, could be the next party in power. Otherwise we will have Labour for many more years, while the small parties try and overcome the establishment bias. Then it will probably be to late. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

23-07-2007, 02:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,292	I agree with the anyalsis of the last contibuter who has a fantastic avatar. However for sch a force to emerge unity must be present and it is not and in my view is unlikley to be for many years to come.

23-07-2007, 06:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Zak64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Poland On Sea (Bournemouth) Posts: 695	Why isn't MKPDavies atavar available as a tee shirt from the UKIP site/shop ? __________________ If anyone complains about unlimited mass immigration we call them a racist - it's our culture!

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