Mark Oaten's new prison regime

mkpdavies · 22-10-2006, 11:43 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ow/6062426.stm

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I would sell the grotty Victorian prisons for housing redevelopment and use the proceeds to move the 30,000 violent offenders to new, modern and secure units outside of town and away from the general public.

Drug abuse within these units would be stopped, and the prisoners would have a tough working day.

For the 50,000 prisoners who have no history of violence, a new system of education and training must be implemented.

Half of our prisoners have the reading capacity of an 11 year old and over two thirds are innumerate.

Not a bad idea. Make them work. I would suggest "away from the general public" could be in the middle of nowhere in a poor country that would be grateful for the business.

David Holland · 23-10-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/6062426.stm

Quote:

I would sell the grotty Victorian prisons for housing redevelopment and use the proceeds to move the 30,000 violent offenders to new, modern and secure units outside of town and away from the general public.

Drug abuse within these units would be stopped, and the prisoners would have a tough working day.

For the 50,000 prisoners who have no history of violence, a new system of education and training must be implemented.

Half of our prisoners have the reading capacity of an 11 year old and over two thirds are innumerate.

Not a bad idea. Make them work. I would suggest "away from the general public" could be in the middle of nowhere in a poor country that would be grateful for the business.

If they are not going to be released in the UK (eg foreign citizens and lifers) then why not have reduce our taxes and 3rd world poverty at a stroke and offshore them. Also if we choose the right 3rd world country deporting them home would be easier for the foreign criminals.

Of course we would need some city centre prisons unless we are going to move all the courts out of the city. We need to hold people on remand near court etc.

Westcountryman · 23-10-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/6062426.stm

Quote:

I would sell the grotty Victorian prisons for housing redevelopment and use the proceeds to move the 30,000 violent offenders to new, modern and secure units outside of town and away from the general public.

Drug abuse within these units would be stopped, and the prisoners would have a tough working day.

For the 50,000 prisoners who have no history of violence, a new system of education and training must be implemented.

Half of our prisoners have the reading capacity of an 11 year old and over two thirds are innumerate.

Not a bad idea. Make them work. I would suggest "away from the general public" could be in the middle of nowhere in a poor country that would be grateful for the business.

We're supposed to believe this, coming from the Lib Dems?

mkpdavies · 23-10-2006, 09:42 PM

I know, it's hard to take them seriously. Once in a blue moon though, they do come up with a sensible suggestion.

Colin McNamee · 25-10-2006, 03:36 PM

Rhetoric for votes, most probally Conservative ones.

They're all on the centre ground now.

Some Lib Dems must be starting to feel uncomfortable :?: :wink:

eublues · 25-10-2006, 03:40 PM

The big thing that won't help prisoners is immigration, which will make their chances of a job on release even less than previously.

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25-10-2006, 03:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Colin McNamee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 894	Rhetoric for votes, most probally Conservative ones. They're all on the centre ground now. Some Lib Dems must be starting to feel uncomfortable :?: :wink:

25-10-2006, 03:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,925	The big thing that won't help prisoners is immigration, which will make their chances of a job on release even less than previously.