Colin McNamee

Missed the reporting.

What was the take on their position regarding the European Union?

Was it mentioned / covered anywhere?

Any specific reporting links known on this topic heading ?

Could always use factual information on this Topic on this Lot !

Britannist

They're europhile and are a waste of space. Campbell's Fiberal Dims would rather lose elections than become anti-EU.

Horrible lot of people. Thank goodness their 2006 annual Conference is at an end - hopefully the Liberal Dim rabble will now disappear from our television screens for a while.

mkpdavies

Paddy Pantsdown did a bit about it not working, while still making the laughble claim that is was preventing wars.

That was about it I think.

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harryaldridge

Charles K. told the party to be MORE PRO-European and told them to fight for a Federal UK.

I expect this would turn a lot of voters off if they had any chance of getting into power! As it is they will pick up protest votes.

Our job must be to explain how europhile the lib dems are. I came across a lib dem supporter who thought they were eurosceptic!!!!!!!!!

Petrina

If UKIP had kept to being a "broad church" we could pick up a lot of eurosceptic Lib Dem votes ,as it is ......

Don`t know why Kennedy felt he had to tell his audience to keep the faith in such a blatant way .Is there any chance that Kennedy feels that the Ming Dynasty is moving from that position ?


Let`s hope that the potentil loss of Home Affairs /Judicial system sorts out the men from the boys so that we will know who if anyone( in authority) will take a stand .

Britannist

I agree with Petrina. After the EU Election in 2004, the europhile Guardian rag printed a poll saying 11% of UKIP's vote had come from Liberal 'Democrats'. I believe at least HALF of the 22% who say they intend to vote for the Liberal 'Democrats' (according to an ICM poll in today's Guardian) could vote UKIP if they knew just how much damage the EU is doing to this country (and their pockets). Few voters know (at present) that UKIP is against ID cards - and has been opposed to them far longer than Campbell's Fiberal Dims.

Regarding the last day of this year's annual conference of the Liberal Dims (yesterday):

And the sum total of the best-selling Sun newspaper’s coverage today of that most important of world events – the Liberal Dim conference in Brighton – is (published on page two of today’s Sun as a footnote to another article on a different subject):

“A slick PR bid to portray the Liberal ‘Democrat’ leader Sir Menzies Campbell as an athletic high flyer and dynamic campaigner backfired at the party conference in Brighton yesterday as even his own faithful burst into laughter.”

Petrina

Apart from a hardened core of often rather unpleasant activists the Lib Dem vote is fairly fluid .The founders of UKIP were ,in the main I believe , Liberals of the old school .

In my opinion we are very foolish to ignore the potential votes from the Lib Dems. .To openly pursue the Tory vote and thereby act as a pressure group upon the Tory Party is something of a cul de sac ,however popular it might make Farage in some quarters .

With our policies of small govt ,low tax ,personal freedom ,reduced immigration we can still appeal to a wide cross section of voters ,indeed in the city areas we appeal to the old Labour voters .

I do agree with Farage that we are the voice of the opposition to the big three and therefore we should use that postion to glean votes from ALL three parties .

Britannist

I absolutely agree with Petrina on the possibilities for UKIP in cutting heavily into the votes of Labour and the Liberal Dims as well as other parties.

I saw one opinion poll result several years ago (in the Telegraph, I think) which said that 50% of Liberal 'Democrat' voters do not like the euro. Alot of Liberal 'Democrat' supporters would not vote for that party if they knew what it really stood for (i.e. complete capitulation to the bullies in Brussels).

Many Labour voters who would never vote Conservative and who think - rightly - that the Liberal 'Democrats' are just plain daft and unfit for high office - would vote UKIP (if UKIP ran a professional campaign as it did so at the last EU Election). Indeed, alot of Labour voters - especially in the London, south-east and 'east' Midland areas did back UKIP and helped elect UKIP MEPs. Gerard Batten (the UKIP London MEP) probably got more Labour than Conservative votes.

The ultimate aim of UKIP should be to get all anti-EU voters to abandon their respective parties and unite under one UKIP banner at a General Election.

Petrina

Maybe we should have a debate at the conference re "broad church " versus "New Tory".

Colin McNamee

BBC Politics Show Sunday 24 September.

Most interesting, for me, was the Lib Dems at their Conference actually admitting that they had to stop saying one thing in one part of the country to something quite the opposite in another - to obtain the populist vote - ie wind farms !! Go with the flow party.

To hear Graham Watson, Lib Dem South West MEP also saying this is little short of a revelation. ie 'we've been conning the elctorate for years'

Come on UKIP, get some activity going against the Lib Dems and shed the Conservative monkey on the UKIP Leadership's back

It's not rocket science folks but when the opposition keep offering open goals perhaps somebody, somewhere in the UKIP hierarchy ought to open their blinkered conservative eyes to the opportunity.