Pro-EU Liberal Dim crime softies who want to legalise drugs

Britannist · 19-09-2006, 09:16 PM

News of the laughing stock that is the unpleasant europhile rabble known as the Liberal 'Democrats':

The eurosceptic Sun newspaper said on 19.9.2006 (extracts) in its coverage of the Liberal Dims Conference at Brighton “Tough laws to protect the UK from terrorists would be destroyed if the Liberal ‘Democrats’ come to power. Liberal ‘Democrat’ crime softies pledged to undo anti-terrorist measures, including control orders and they vowed to keep the hated Human Rights act exploited by terrorists, criminals and Muslims fanatics.

Home Affairs spokesman, Nick Clegg, outlined plans for a ‘Great Repeal Act’ to “roll back a generation of illiberal legislation”. Clegg stated at the Liberal ‘Democrat’ conference that it was right (of his party) to oppose getting rid of the Human Rights Act. He said his party would continue to be against detention without trial.

Two senior Liberal ‘Democrats’ called for the decriminalisation of all illegal drugs :x

:evil: . ‘Chris’ Davies MEP told a (Liberal ‘Democrat’ party conference) fringe meeting in Brighton that it (legalising all illegal drugs) would undermine criminals. Baroness Walmsley said that legalising all illegal drugs would cut crime and theft. “It’s a no-brainer” she claimed.”

Also from the Sun newspaper today (19.9.2006):

‘Doddery Ming’s four howlers in ten minutes’ :shock:

(Brief extracts) Sir Menzies Campbell (leader of the Liberal ‘Democrats’) got the number of By-Elections since he became leader wrong. He forgot how many the Liberal ‘Democrats’ had won (wrongly saying they won the By-Election at Bromley).

He claimed the ‘Arctic Monkeys’ have sold more records than the ‘Beatles’. He claimed he watched ‘The West Wing’ on BBC 4 when it’s actually on Channel Four :shock: .

Ming (Sir Menzies) also said that he was a ‘Coronation Street’ fan – but he could only name one character – Bet Lynch, who left years ago.

Julie Goodyear, the actress who played Bet Lynch (on Coronation Street), yesterday dismissed the Liberal ‘Democrats’. When asked who their leader was, she said that she did not know :twisted: . “Are they still going?” she queried :twisted: ."

BASILDON BOY · 19-09-2006, 09:30 PM

Sod the LibDems - when we are ahead in the polls of the LibDems then I will celebrate!

brian pearson · 19-09-2006, 09:54 PM

Drugs may as well be legal now. I'm starting to think maybe it's not such a bad idea. Free heroin ! If someone wants to stick a needle into themselves let them get on with it.

eublues · 19-09-2006, 10:36 PM

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legalising all illegal drugs would cut crime and theft.

Can't disagree with that.

mkpdavies · 20-09-2006, 09:58 AM

UKIPs leader said on Question Time once, that legalising drugs should be looked at.

Can't say I disagree either.

Zak64 · 20-09-2006, 09:27 PM

As an perfectly legitimate, large, but in no way sinister businessman with no connections at all to Columbia, Italy, Russia, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan or just about anywhere really, I utterly oppose the legalisation of drugs.

I mean, how's a guy to maintain a collection of vintage Maseratis, several villas and a few 60 Meter motor yachts in the Med. C'mon guys, have a heart, think of poor Luigi and his kids. Business hasn't been going too well lately they're are down to their last two hundred and fifty million Dollars !

No, any discussion of legalising drugs is wrong. It could encourage crime. :shock:

John Carter · 21-09-2006, 12:30 AM

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Baroness Walmsley said that legalising all illegal drugs would cut crime and theft.

Does she mean that all illegal drugs will also be free of charge? Because I'm pretty sure heroin will be just as addictive when you buy it from Tesco as it is when you buy it from Big Vern down the road. And you'll still need to find the money to fund that addiction. So you'll still need to attempt to break into my house.

And this is why the Lib Dems will get into power at exactly the same time that the denizens of Hell start worrying about their petunias getting hit by a frost.

jim h · 21-09-2006, 05:51 AM

As long as drugs remain illegal criminality will survive and prosper and society will get absolutely no benefits whilst the criminals will enjoy themselves.
Far better for the state to legalise the import and sale of drugs it can then be taxed , the problem will be understood, users can be helped and a hell of a lot of police and lawyers time could be spent on real criminal matters.

mkpdavies · 21-09-2006, 09:12 AM

I'm not sure about the crime argument to be honest.

If drugs became legal, do you think all the organised crime would suddenly disapear? Will all the people who were willing to ignore the law, just suddenly think stuff it, I'll go and work at McDonalds?

I don't think so. They will just shift their activities into another arena. So I don't think you can say it will cut drime, just shift it.

Zak64 · 22-09-2006, 11:37 AM

Matt
I am convinced of the crime arguments.

Yeah sure, everyone shouldn't smoke, drink moderately, eat five portions of fruit and veg each day, do regular exercise and say their prayers before bed. But in the real world it doesn't work like that.

When I go down to my car in the morning and find the window put through I am always left contemplating......'was that a junkie looking for their next fix, or a tooth fairy gone bad ?'

The whole problem with our current drug laws is that they are not working. Or rather that they are working far too well, for the criminals. We had about 2000 registered drug addicts when the 1972 (?) Misuse of Drugs Act was introduced. Today, from the Home Office Website

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around 1 million people use Class A drugs each year

OK, they won't all be addicts, and they won't all steal to finance their crime. But a lot of 'em will.

The upshot of all this is that we have criminal gangs, frequently armed, making BILLIONS from all of this. We also have a culture of criminality fueled by the economic power of the drug trade ready and willing to embrace any academically failing youngster.

I say enough ! UKIP should have the balls to tackle this issue head on. Politico scum have lied to the public about drugs and the drugs trade and got us all into a hell of a mess because of it. I also firmly believe the public now see through all the lies on this issue and are ready for some serious leadership on the issue.

19-09-2006, 09:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Pro-EU Liberal Dim crime softies who want to legalise drugs News of the laughing stock that is the unpleasant europhile rabble known as the Liberal 'Democrats': The eurosceptic Sun newspaper said on 19.9.2006 (extracts) in its coverage of the Liberal Dims Conference at Brighton “Tough laws to protect the UK from terrorists would be destroyed if the Liberal ‘Democrats’ come to power. Liberal ‘Democrat’ crime softies pledged to undo anti-terrorist measures, including control orders and they vowed to keep the hated Human Rights act exploited by terrorists, criminals and Muslims fanatics. Home Affairs spokesman, Nick Clegg, outlined plans for a ‘Great Repeal Act’ to “roll back a generation of illiberal legislation”. Clegg stated at the Liberal ‘Democrat’ conference that it was right (of his party) to oppose getting rid of the Human Rights Act. He said his party would continue to be against detention without trial. Two senior Liberal ‘Democrats’ called for the decriminalisation of all illegal drugs :x :evil: . ‘Chris’ Davies MEP told a (Liberal ‘Democrat’ party conference) fringe meeting in Brighton that it (legalising all illegal drugs) would undermine criminals. Baroness Walmsley said that legalising all illegal drugs would cut crime and theft. “It’s a no-brainer” she claimed.” Also from the Sun newspaper today (19.9.2006): ‘Doddery Ming’s four howlers in ten minutes’ :shock: (Brief extracts) Sir Menzies Campbell (leader of the Liberal ‘Democrats’) got the number of By-Elections since he became leader wrong. He forgot how many the Liberal ‘Democrats’ had won (wrongly saying they won the By-Election at Bromley). He claimed the ‘Arctic Monkeys’ have sold more records than the ‘Beatles’. He claimed he watched ‘The West Wing’ on BBC 4 when it’s actually on Channel Four :shock: . Ming (Sir Menzies) also said that he was a ‘Coronation Street’ fan – but he could only name one character – Bet Lynch, who left years ago. Julie Goodyear, the actress who played Bet Lynch (on Coronation Street), yesterday dismissed the Liberal ‘Democrats’. When asked who their leader was, she said that she did not know :twisted: . “Are they still going?” she queried :twisted: ."

19-09-2006, 09:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
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21-09-2006, 09:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	I'm not sure about the crime argument to be honest. If drugs became legal, do you think all the organised crime would suddenly disapear? Will all the people who were willing to ignore the law, just suddenly think stuff it, I'll go and work at McDonalds? I don't think so. They will just shift their activities into another arena. So I don't think you can say it will cut drime, just shift it. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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19-09-2006, 09:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
brian pearson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: nottinghanshire Posts: 528	Drugs may as well be legal now. I'm starting to think maybe it's not such a bad idea. Free heroin ! If someone wants to stick a needle into themselves let them get on with it.

20-09-2006, 09:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Zak64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Poland On Sea (Bournemouth) Posts: 668	As an perfectly legitimate, large, but in no way sinister businessman with no connections at all to Columbia, Italy, Russia, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan or just about anywhere really, I utterly oppose the legalisation of drugs. I mean, how's a guy to maintain a collection of vintage Maseratis, several villas and a few 60 Meter motor yachts in the Med. C'mon guys, have a heart, think of poor Luigi and his kids. Business hasn't been going too well lately they're are down to their last two hundred and fifty million Dollars ! No, any discussion of legalising drugs is wrong. It could encourage crime. :shock:

21-09-2006, 05:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
jim h Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 335	As long as drugs remain illegal criminality will survive and prosper and society will get absolutely no benefits whilst the criminals will enjoy themselves. Far better for the state to legalise the import and sale of drugs it can then be taxed , the problem will be understood, users can be helped and a hell of a lot of police and lawyers time could be spent on real criminal matters.