How the hell did I fall for this BS

mkpdavies · 05-03-2008, 03:58 PM

YouTube - UK Labour Party Political Broadcast -...

I hate the fact I was thick enough to vote for this tosser. What a slimeball.

I wish I could go back in a time machine and give me a bloody good battering.

Roland · 05-03-2008, 04:20 PM

Your not the only sucker. Thankfully I live in an area you could put a blue rouset on a chimpanzee and the tories would win so I never bothered to vote.

John in Scotland · 06-03-2008, 10:27 AM

How did you fall for it?

Dunno, Matt. You tell us.

Perhaps you were young? I was pretty sympathetic with Labour until I was about 20.

By 1997, however, not even my lack of enthusiasm for the Major government would have led me to vote Labour.

Anthony Butcher · 06-03-2008, 02:04 PM

In 1997 it looked like Labour was going to be a breath of fresh air.

youcanhandlethetruth · 06-03-2008, 02:44 PM

It shows the power of mainstream media propaganda.

Doesn't it make you wonder what else we're being fooled about at the moment ?

eublues · 06-03-2008, 02:56 PM

Blailr is an extremely good con-man. Takes quite a lot of exposure and time for his veneer to rub off.

Exactly the opposite of Brown in that regard. Once Brown wasn't able to hide behind Blair, it was clear Brown couldn't con anyone with half a brain.

harryaldridge · 06-03-2008, 03:27 PM

In the video about 3.50 blair says "being a politician is about changing the country in the way that you think is right for the country".

Not quite right. While I might personally like x to happen, it would be my duty to question whether this infringed the liberty of others or imposed conformity uneccessarily. It is not just about seeking a better country as you think it should be, but understanding the limitations of the state. We used to have such principled men in politics, now they all want to 'help' us.

John Connor · 06-03-2008, 04:29 PM

People fall for tossers and their shiny newness all the time.

That's why you need people like me warning you about them. Of course, nobody ever takes any notice of me, so it's all a bit pointless.

I'm beginning to think it's all a waste of time. Do I fight for my fellow man who's too stupid to fight for himself or even realise what he's up against; or do I go buy myself a private island in the Caribbean and lounge about on the beach all day laughing at the people back home still under the boot?

youcanhandlethetruth · 06-03-2008, 05:04 PM

I sympathize with your frustration John.

The process of reshaping long held beliefs shaped by the system is a long and difficult one, but necessary, so don't lose heart.

What did Ghandi say ?
"First they ridicule you, then they attack you, then you win" ?

NoMoreEUSSR · 07-03-2008, 03:53 AM

I'll confess, I was even worse: I liked the Lib Dims back then. Right up until Ashdown quit. Then it somehow dawned on me they're a bunch of commies. But I did think Paddy was OK and not a total EU puppet; I heard him openly criticize the EU on many occasions. If he is an ideological europhile, then that's OK with me. It's a good thing, in fact, that many ideological europhiles are growing to hate the Evil Union because it does not represent even their federalist values. This is evidence enough that the Evil Union is eventually doomed.

06-03-2008, 02:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 8,932 Party: None	In 1997 it looked like Labour was going to be a breath of fresh air. __________________ If you care about what's in your food and where it comes from, then get it labelled! Label My Food - http://www.labelmyfood.org.uk

06-03-2008, 02:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
youcanhandlethetruth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,340	It shows the power of mainstream media propaganda. Doesn't it make you wonder what else we're being fooled about at the moment ? __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits: Akria,Clippo,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist,MikeUK

06-03-2008, 03:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
harryaldridge Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Sussex Posts: 1,806	In the video about 3.50 blair says "being a politician is about changing the country in the way that you think is right for the country". Not quite right. While I might personally like x to happen, it would be my duty to question whether this infringed the liberty of others or imposed conformity uneccessarily. It is not just about seeking a better country as you think it should be, but understanding the limitations of the state. We used to have such principled men in politics, now they all want to 'help' us. __________________ http://vindicovindico.blogspot.com Zopa

06-03-2008, 04:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
John Connor Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Away for Summer Posts: 576 Party: None	People fall for tossers and their shiny newness all the time. That's why you need people like me warning you about them. Of course, nobody ever takes any notice of me, so it's all a bit pointless. I'm beginning to think it's all a waste of time. Do I fight for my fellow man who's too stupid to fight for himself or even realise what he's up against; or do I go buy myself a private island in the Caribbean and lounge about on the beach all day laughing at the people back home still under the boot? __________________ There are three types of people in this world: Libertarians, fascists and those who haven't been paying attention. If you're taking notice of the environmental rants of a man who claims to have invented the Internet, exactly how low is your IQ? Users on ignore list: Akria, Besoeker, Clippo, david H, Ian C.

06-03-2008, 05:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
youcanhandlethetruth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,340	I sympathize with your frustration John. The process of reshaping long held beliefs shaped by the system is a long and difficult one, but necessary, so don't lose heart. What did Ghandi say ? "First they ridicule you, then they attack you, then you win" ? __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits: Akria,Clippo,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist,MikeUK

05-03-2008, 04:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 704	Your not the only sucker. Thankfully I live in an area you could put a blue rouset on a chimpanzee and the tories would win so I never bothered to vote.

06-03-2008, 10:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
John in Scotland Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Highlands Posts: 74	How did you fall for it? Dunno, Matt. You tell us. Perhaps you were young? I was pretty sympathetic with Labour until I was about 20. By 1997, however, not even my lack of enthusiasm for the Major government would have led me to vote Labour.

06-03-2008, 02:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,845	Blailr is an extremely good con-man. Takes quite a lot of exposure and time for his veneer to rub off. Exactly the opposite of Brown in that regard. Once Brown wasn't able to hide behind Blair, it was clear Brown couldn't con anyone with half a brain.

07-03-2008, 03:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
NoMoreEUSSR Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ANZAC-Land Posts: 436	Hmmm... I'll confess, I was even worse: I liked the Lib Dims back then. Right up until Ashdown quit. Then it somehow dawned on me they're a bunch of commies. But I did think Paddy was OK and not a total EU puppet; I heard him openly criticize the EU on many occasions. If he is an ideological europhile, then that's OK with me. It's a good thing, in fact, that many ideological europhiles are growing to hate the Evil Union because it does not represent even their federalist values. This is evidence enough that the Evil Union is eventually doomed.

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