Thread on Labour Home on Benefits of EU membership

jp · 11-10-2006, 07:15 PM

http://www.labourhome.org/story/2006/10/9/1076/07625

Extremely lukewarm support & some postively dissenting voices. Things might be looking up!

mkpdavies · 12-10-2006, 08:08 AM

I was watching an old Panorama last night about Gordon Brown. It made a big thing of the fact Bliar wanted to drag us into the Euro, but Brown said no.

There is a large chunk of Labour that are not happy with the EU and it's the chunk that don't like Nu Labour.

harryaldridge · 12-10-2006, 09:18 AM

AT conference Jon Arnott gave a very interesting presentation. It showed the reults of recent by-elections and UKIPs best performing seats are generally rock solid Labour.

His conclusion - dont just think we attract Tories, we actually appeal to labour voters as well.

jp · 12-10-2006, 11:00 AM

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His conclusion - dont just think we attract Tories, we actually appeal to labour voters as well.

Another example of the fact that the main parties no longer reflect the split of political opinion in the country

Britannist · 12-10-2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by harryaldridge

AT conference Jon Arnott gave a very interesting presentation. It showed the reults of recent by-elections and UKIPs best performing seats are generally rock solid Labour.

His conclusion - dont just think we attract Tories, we actually appeal to labour voters as well.

UKIP probably got more votes from Labour than from the Conservatives in the London constituency in the 2004 EU Election - certainly the swings away from Labour (huge in some outer parts of the capital like the Bexley-Bromley seat in the London Assembly elections held the same day) almost matched the size of the increase in the vote for UKIP. That doesn't necessarily mean that the Labour voters switched directly to UKIP, but it is a very strong indication that that is, in fact, what happened. Labour lost the most and UKIP appeared to be the main beneficiary in the London Assembly elections as well as UKIP winning a London seat in the EU 'Parliament'.

Labour also did badly in 2004 in the south-east 'regional' (England) onstituency in the EU Elections and Labour just scraped in with a single representative in the 'east' Midlands (of England) 'region'.

In London and the 'east' Midlands I would suggest that UKIP got more votes from Labour than from the Conservatives. In the south-east UKIP may have taken votes roughly equally from the two 'main' parties.

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12-10-2006, 09:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
harryaldridge Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Sussex Posts: 1,912	AT conference Jon Arnott gave a very interesting presentation. It showed the reults of recent by-elections and UKIPs best performing seats are generally rock solid Labour. His conclusion - dont just think we attract Tories, we actually appeal to labour voters as well.