Britannist

Not from me.

George - you are not providing in this thread an accurate reflection of the reasons why you were banned; nor other facts around it. As MKP Davies asked you in posting number two to this thread "Is that the whole truth?"

You wrote in the first posting to this thread:

George - you were not allowed to post here for a month for using the word liar against me TEN TIMES in about three hours. I was aware within minutes of the first time you used that word but refrained from making any reply to you. You then proceed to using it a further nine times while I continued remain silent.

As Eurosceptic Atlanticist wrote earlier in this thread, you also started using in the signature section of your postings to reproduce part of a quote of my words in which you missed from your quote of me some words which resulted in the meaning of my words being changed to many readers.

Did you? I do not like to quote from a PM - but since you bring the matter up may I ask you: do I have your permission to quote exactly what you wrote in the PM?

Where is the apology in this thread from you to me for calling me a liar TEN TIMES in about two hours across two threads?

I was not lying.

Usage of the word "liar" in reference to another poster on this forum is prohibited. I have never ever used that word against another poster here - and neither have most other contributors.

By the way George, I do not recall quite specifically and categorically writing that you were definitely not posting to the forum from Poland.

I would think that the best thing you could do, George, is now just 'move on' from the matter of you not being allowed to post here for a month.

Ihope

Welcome back, at least you treated it patiently and not massively angry. It does not sound very serious what you did.

Britannist

And would you be quite so magnanimous if someone was rude to you in writing TEN TIMES in about three hours?

Eurosceptic Atlanticist

I agree with Britannist. George's behaviour was completely out of order.

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Britannist

Thank you for pointing that out Eurosceptic Atlanticist.

George is quoted in posting number 22 to this thread as allegedly writing "As far as I'm concerned it's history."

Let us hope that he now 'moves on' from this.

George

What a pity. I had hoped you would prove yourself an honest man. Still, you can't say I didn't give you the opportunity.

As far as I was aware at that time, that was the reason. It was the only thing which was brought to my attention. However, I have been told since that it is possible to be banned for using the "L" word when describing someone who has been disingenious with the truth.

That was my understanding at the time. It makes more sense to me that quoting someone out of context leads to a ban that it does to ban someone for using the "L" word when untruths have been uttered about me.

As I have made clear, I now understand the "L" word is banned. However, what you said about me was not true.

Hands up, I did indeed do that. As I said in the first post: "I would like to offer a sincere and wholehearted apology to Brittanist for any offence caused."

Actually, you are right. I did not actually apologise in the PM, but rather I stated that I would be apologising publicly: "I will be apologising publicly in the new thread for any offence caused." Which I did: "I would like to offer a sincere and wholehearted apology to Brittanist for any offence caused."

You have suggested that I am lying about living in Poland. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here.
Here. Here. Here. Here.This is not true.

You have suggested that I am not British. Here. Here. Here. This is not true.

You have suggested that I am untruthful. Here. Here. Here. This is not true.

Seventeen posts where you have suggested that my statements are untrue. Given that I scanned my passport and you now have proof of the location of my IP address I would expect you to apologise or at the very least withdraw these statements.

No, you know the rules. Instead you have implied the very same thing in a sneaky underhand way. I may have broken the rules, but at least I am honest enough to say straight out what I mean and apologise if I have done wrong.

No, you simply insinuated that I was not telling the truth.

I think the best thing I could do is defend my reputation from unworthy attacks. And the best thing you could have done would have been to enter this thread only to say: "Well it seems George was telling the truth, sorry if I implied otherwise". Everyone now knows where I am, is it really too much for you to type that simple sentence?

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youcanhandlethetruth

Have you both thought of working in diplomatic relations ?

Sorry couldn't resist saying that !

Tell me to butt out if you like but aren't there bigger things to worry about ?

Ok sorry to stick my nose in.....

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Akria

If we were to ban people for 'being rude', even as many times as ten times in three hours as Britannist puts it, then this would be a very small forum.

YCHTT calls me a liar every time he posts due to his signature - I have stated before that I am not a government agent, yet it states that I am one of the COINTELPRO.
The same thing he says of Besoeker and Clippo. And indeed The Bear, you and MikeUK, three whom I would not expect to be targets.

Britannist, too, is guilty of being rude quite often.
I have feelings of poetic justice in quoting one of Britannist's posts from the debate in which he claimed that George was rude.

Though I can accept that he may have been annoyed by George, is it any reason to sink to George's level if we accept that George was insulting Britannist?

Unless you would consider all that a sign of good friendship and a compliment?

You too have been guilty of rudeness in your presumption in the past that I have not read the Bible, despite it being forced upon us at school.

Clippo has been rude quite often in his dismissing as 'crackpots' the sceptics on the forum, and other such things.

And, of course, I have been incredibly rude to nigh-on everyone, for which I make apologies but do not expect to be absolved.

Despite our feeble protests, we are all rude at times. If George is to be banned for calling someone a liar then I would argue that many others should be banned for doing essentially the same thing, the only difference being how it is wrapped up in different words, how it is not said so bluntly. The implication is still there, and it is the essence which is rude.

And, if I have offended anyone with this post by calling them rude: tough luck.

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George

No worries.

I wouldn't normally bother but I don't like the implications that I am being dishonest. By all means disagree with me. Provide evidence that my arguments are faulty. But to hide behind innuendo while suggesting I am making things up I find distasteful.

Of course, it would all be over in a moment as far as I'm concerned if Brittanist would just admit that I am who and where I have said I am.

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Oh god !

My humblest apologies..........(not to you Akria)

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