Do the british Government ''really'' care about human rights?

Ihope · 23-02-2008, 06:02 PM

I would like the forums thoughts on this matter.

mkpdavies · 23-02-2008, 06:07 PM

Hell no. They care about themselves and power, end of story.

Ihope · 23-02-2008, 06:15 PM

If you don't mind me asking, how old were you when you came to this conclusion or was it just life experience slowly making you aware of this? Don't things like Brown's recent 'care' policy change improvements change your mind in any way?

mkpdavies · 23-02-2008, 06:19 PM

About 1 year after Tony Blair came into power. The sickening sense of shame that I voted for him was almost too hard to take.

It has got worse and worse ever since.

Roland · 23-02-2008, 06:45 PM

It was about 5 years into blair being in power I thought things wern't right but the media said every thing was fine so i just plodded on through life.

It was the smoking ban that really did it at first I thought well if it's dangerous to other peoples health then you can't really argue with it. When I looked into the health risks of environmental tobacco smoke I was quite shocked to find their is no justifiable basis for it.

Which meant our beloved labour party lied to get the legislation through. What was even more sinister they did it because the EU and the UN told them they had to cut people smoking. What has it got to do with the UN whether people in Britain or France or Spain smoke or not.

Then I started looking into other issues and when you start looking at politics on an international level rather than a national level it changes the face of politics.

It's quite clear to me our government does not work for us it does what the EU tell it to.

Hartlepool · 23-02-2008, 07:33 PM

We have no choice but to hold our Government and indeed most politicians in utter contempt because of the deiberate damage they have done to our country in the desire to fill their pockets with dirty EU paid quisling monies.

But,fear not,the tide is on the change and the masses are begining to take notice of those who have spoken out against this injustice by our political nerdowells.

Smidgey · 23-02-2008, 08:48 PM

I think you should remove the 'human rights' part.

Do the British government really care?

No.

Roland · 24-02-2008, 12:21 PM

Do the british Government ''really'' care

Judge for your self.

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Ihope · 24-02-2008, 11:56 PM

well, I would like a copy of Tony Benn's list of powers transferred, I don't know enough about it and don't mind admitting it. How do we get one, do you know? Perhaps I will see if Tony has his own website with this list on, I will check! Unless somebody already has a list, in which case, please post it.
It takes a long time trying to dig out information, sometimes.

youcanhandlethetruth · 25-02-2008, 03:35 AM

If one considers detention of people without charge, the gradual removal of trial by jury and the abolision of habeus corpus to be fair under the "Terrorism Act" then yes.

23-02-2008, 06:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ihope Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 95	Do the british Government ''really'' care about human rights? I would like the forums thoughts on this matter.

23-02-2008, 06:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	Hell no. They care about themselves and power, end of story. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

23-02-2008, 06:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	About 1 year after Tony Blair came into power. The sickening sense of shame that I voted for him was almost too hard to take. It has got worse and worse ever since. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

23-02-2008, 08:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Smidgey Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,008 Party: Libertarian Party	I think you should remove the 'human rights' part. Do the British government really care? No. __________________ How vain is man, who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might! -Georg Friedrich Händel

25-02-2008, 03:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
youcanhandlethetruth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,540	If one considers detention of people without charge, the gradual removal of trial by jury and the abolision of habeus corpus to be fair under the "Terrorism Act" then yes. __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits: Akria,Clippo,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist,MikeUK

23-02-2008, 06:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ihope Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 95	If you don't mind me asking, how old were you when you came to this conclusion or was it just life experience slowly making you aware of this? Don't things like Brown's recent 'care' policy change improvements change your mind in any way?

23-02-2008, 06:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 855	It was about 5 years into blair being in power I thought things wern't right but the media said every thing was fine so i just plodded on through life. It was the smoking ban that really did it at first I thought well if it's dangerous to other peoples health then you can't really argue with it. When I looked into the health risks of environmental tobacco smoke I was quite shocked to find their is no justifiable basis for it. Which meant our beloved labour party lied to get the legislation through. What was even more sinister they did it because the EU and the UN told them they had to cut people smoking. What has it got to do with the UN whether people in Britain or France or Spain smoke or not. Then I started looking into other issues and when you start looking at politics on an international level rather than a national level it changes the face of politics. It's quite clear to me our government does not work for us it does what the EU tell it to.

23-02-2008, 07:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,409	We have no choice but to hold our Government and indeed most politicians in utter contempt because of the deiberate damage they have done to our country in the desire to fill their pockets with dirty EU paid quisling monies. But,fear not,the tide is on the change and the masses are begining to take notice of those who have spoken out against this injustice by our political nerdowells.

24-02-2008, 11:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ihope Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 95	well, I would like a copy of Tony Benn's list of powers transferred, I don't know enough about it and don't mind admitting it. How do we get one, do you know? Perhaps I will see if Tony has his own website with this list on, I will check! Unless somebody already has a list, in which case, please post it. It takes a long time trying to dig out information, sometimes.

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