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Old 15-10-2007, 04:07 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Hi there,

I thought I'd introduce myself because I saw that you were American and I'm very aware of the enormous problems your country is facing now about the NAU, Mexican immigration and the like.

In fact, I've been trying to wake up people to the reality of what's going on home and abroad, because like you say there are many parallels.

In fact I've being trying to educate people about the NAU, 911 with some infowars.com articles - are you aware of the website ? If not I thoroughly recommend it !
Anyway I'm not sure if I can get people to wake up and smell the coffee - most of them seem keen to label me as a conspiracy theorist....

I hope you can maybe let them know your concerns from an American perspective, so they can realise what they are facing here before it is too late.

I notice you asked the question - "does anyone have a theory as to why this is happening in very different places".

Yes there is one man - Alex Jones on the GCN radio network in America (weekdays 11am EST at gcnlive.com or infowars.com).
He is bringing out his new movie October 24 on his subscription website Alex Jones' Prison Planet.tv: Fighting The Orwellian Police State.

Maybe you already know this, but if not here is the trailer for the film.......

Ok take care.......



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I think it's several things. One is the mass influx of Mexicans across our border, and this after 9/11. Makes us pause.

Second, well alot of us are sore over NAFTA. It's not free trade, it's government managed trade. Now, we have an expansion of it? I think not. No one I know wants to fund Mexico's bad behaviour (ie their elite nasty government).

Three is Ron Paul. Many Conservatives who felt left out by the Republican Party are behind the man. He speaks the truth in a way politicians normally just don't.

The thing I wonder is does anyone have a theory as to why this is happening in very different places. Why we're all getting supra-national government attempts.

From my perspective I live in a resource rich nation with an intelligent workforce, and the breadbasket of the world.

You all live on a medium sized island off the coast of Europe, largely dependent on trade, and effectively handling it.

But, despite our differences as to the fundamental nature of our countries, we are facing ultimately the same problem. How to prevent this.

I still wonder though, what is the reason. And can it be coincidence. It doesn't feel that way.
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One thing I've thought before (because Switzerland might be in a permutation of this position shortly), is if you are in the EU, things get bad in a dramatic way, and you take back the local government, why can't you just pull out of the EU at that point?

Who's gonna stop you?

I mean, the EU ain't gonna send troops in, and if it did, well, Brussels is a very short trip in a bomber out of Heathrow.
Welcome to the forum (I have a minor problem with the US due to some anti-UK stuff it does so I would like to let you know I'm not against all Yanks, ie you, just those who always seem to put us down, ie Film-makers are the worst. I watched Van Wilder 2 today because I love the first film and this one is based in England but it concentrates on our history, India and Northern Ireland. Irresponsible with Northern Ireland still pretty fragile and the film is negative about the UK which annoys me. Don't take offence when I get annoyed and slag off the USA).

I have tried getting people involved in maybe taking over parts of Cities and making them an EU-Free zone but people are generally spineless. I hope you all have lots of weapons and resist all attempts to make weapons-ownership illegal.

Feel free to bring some people over here with some M16's and I think we may be able to do something about the traitors.
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Hi there,

I thought I'd introduce myself because I saw that you were American and I'm very aware of the enormous problems your country is facing now about the NAU, Mexican immigration and the like.

In fact, I've been trying to wake up people to the reality of what's going on home and abroad, because like you say there are many parallels.

In fact I've being trying to educate people about the NAU, 911 with some infowars.com articles - are you aware of the website ? If not I thoroughly recommend it !
Anyway I'm not sure if I can get people to wake up and smell the coffee - most of them seem keen to label me as a conspiracy theorist....

I hope you can maybe let them know your concerns from an American perspective, so they can realise what they are facing here before it is too late.

I notice you asked the question - "does anyone have a theory as to why this is happening in very different places".

Yes there is one man - Alex Jones on the GCN radio network in America (weekdays 11am EST at gcnlive.com or infowars.com).
He is bringing out his new movie October 24 on his subscription website Alex Jones' Prison Planet.tv: Fighting The Orwellian Police State.

Maybe you already know this, but if not here is the trailer for the film.......

Ok take care.......

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Don't you think the web site that you are relying on is a little too profit orientated to be convincing that it is run by concerned individuals whose primary objective is to save the 80% of the population who are going to be eradicated? They beauty of the internet is that information can be put in the public domain - very cheaply.
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Don't you think the web site that you are relying on is a little too profit orientated to be convincing that it is run by concerned individuals whose primary objective is to save the 80% of the population who are going to be eradicated? They beauty of the internet is that information can be put in the public domain - very cheaply.
No you are totally wrong with your implication and I can refute that statement with 100% confidence. In fact the opposite is sometimes true.
The primary purpose of the website is to inform people about what is going - period.
If you had listened to the show on a regular basis you would know that as this is the real world there has to be some profit making, but that is only to be able to continue to be able to operate, because any business cannot operate on fresh air. Any profit made is put back into the site or other sites/films are created to expand the truth movement.
In addition he has made(like Terrorstorm) have actually lost money, but you should realise there are significant costs incurred in making these films - of course that is obviously the case.

Also consider why Alex Jones allows free copies of his movies to be distributed freely on youtube and google video - he doesn't have to allow that to happen but he does because getting the information out is the primary purpose - simply it is too important, not to allow that to happen....

So nice try but either your attempted slur or your ignorance has backfired on you......

Whilst on this subject, consider how a politician like Tony Blair can buy his London property on the salary of a PM ? Hmmm, I wonder how ?
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No you are totally wrong with your implication and I can refute that statement with 100% confidence. In fact the opposite is sometimes true.
The primary purpose of the website is to inform people about what is going - period.
If you had listened to the show on a regular basis you would know that as this is the real world there has to be some profit making, but that is only to be able to continue to be able to operate, because any business cannot operate on fresh air. Any profit made is put back into the site or other sites/films are created to expand the truth movement.
In addition he has made(like Terrorstorm) have actually lost money, but you should realise there are significant costs incurred in making these films - of course that is obviously the case.

Also consider why Alex Jones allows free copies of his movies to be distributed freely on youtube and google video - he doesn't have to allow that to happen but he does because getting the information out is the primary purpose - simply it is too important, not to allow that to happen....

So nice try but either your attempted slur or your ignorance has backfired on you......

Whilst on this subject, consider how a politician like Tony Blair can buy his London property on the salary of a PM ? Hmmm, I wonder how ?
I have no doubt there is a plan for a new world order which entails [at least] leading Western politicians uniting with the giant corporations at the great expense to the rest of us [and I am inclined to believe that the EU is part of the plan], however, I was questioning whether the site you recommended was the true source of the challenge.
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I have no doubt there is a plan for a new world order which entails [at least] leading Western politicians uniting with the giant corporations at the great expense to the rest of us [and I am inclined to believe that the EU is part of the plan], however, I was questioning whether the site you recommended was the true source of the challenge.
Forgive me - I don't understand what you mean by "the true source of the challenge" ?
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Forgive me - I don't understand what you mean by "the true source of the challenge" ?
The site is too garish to be taken very seriously, however, I am sure there are more sober individuals who recognise the threat and are working to challenge the plan.

I expect the EU model is attractive to these would be 'Masters of the World' as it does effectively bring an end to democracy. It really is time that all of those in the anti EU movement started working together to prevent the 'amended' Treaty being approved - it is a watershed.
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No you are totally wrong with your implication and I can refute that statement with 100% confidence. In fact the opposite is sometimes true.
Which means that sometimes it is not.......
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What the **** are you talking about ?

I've already explained my reasoning in my previous post........

For your benefit, I'll explain again.....
Sometimes they "lose" money from producing these educational films but inevitably (in the REAL world) they need to make a profit to continue and hopefully expand their operation.

Oh I see, you're one of these people who thinks no-one should be ever be able to profit from anything (especially something meant to help educate people) ?

So I presume you personally don't profit from a running a business (or maybe anything at all), unless it is meant to **** people ?

Do YOU profit from anything at all ?

Don't get smug with your low-intellect word games.....
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Greetings,

I'm very interested to hear your take on events in NA as I live out there for part of the year (I am have American inlaws).
Have a read of this PDF it will give you a bit of an insight into how our country has ended up like it has:

http://www.candidlist.demon.co.uk/ha...ulturewar2.pdf

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