mordechai

But the political structure within Britain they still need. They need what is left to sign over control. If you work hard enough, you might manage to stop it. Granted you did refer to your country's political and media apparatus as a corpse.

I'm saying that in the future, if Britain has a 20% unemployment rate, with British troops on German and French errands, a whole system on it's way down, and sectarian strife brewing within amongst the immigrant populations, and the original Britons, well, why couldn't you (because at this point, people would want to do something) simply tell the EU to leave? Recall your MEPs, and if the EU did something nasty (ie militarily) turn Brussels into a space nightlight (maybe not that dramatic, but yes, attack an EU asset brutally and totally).

I don't think your population will listen now, but they might later, especially as things devolve. And, I don't see the EU able to stop you. That military option I see as something you wouldn't even need to threaten with.

John Doe

Unfortunately what appears to be a majority of our population now seems to think that you never have to fight for anything.

"War is a bad thing" seems to be the intellectual foundation of this idea.

mordechai

War is bad. It is horrible, and should be avoided. At most costs. But, chains are too high a cost.

As far as the fighting, you either fight this now with words and votes, or later, well, Brussels' nightlights might be the only solution left and not just a silly joke.

You guys have your work cut out for you.

Got to get to bed. Be back later.

John Carter

Seven heads?

European Union...
African Union...
North American Union...
Unión de Naciones Suramericanas...
Arab Union...
and I have no idea how Asia will work itself, but there's scope for two more for sure.

If the US, Europe and the socialist South Americans are getting involved with this kind of thing, it can't all be down to the usual puppet masters (i.e. Rockerfeller, Rothschild, etc..).

mordechai

To me, these different blocs represent different economic unions, really. The North American Union is the Service Bloc, the African and South American Unions natural rescources blocs, Arab Bloc an oil bloc (the natural resource of the world).

In Asia I see two blocs, the Southeast Asia bloc, extending all the way from India to Indonesia, to Australia. This bloc would be the only "all around" bloc. Natural resources in Australia. Services and industry in India, and electronics in Southeast Asia. Although there would be an attempt to limit the power of that economic bloc.

China is naturally the other Asian bloc. An industrial giant making literally 90% of the world's goods.

The wildcards are three.

One is Russia. Russia is the octopus in the room if you are an aspiring globalist. It's nearly impossible to control, it's leaders are outside of the normal chain of power. It is only sporadically connected to the Bank of International Settlements. And, it has enough nukes to destroy Earth several times over.

Two is the Arab World. The Umma. The dream long held by many Sunnis. And something the radical Wahabi work for. These folks aren't gonna try to be some "bloc" run by the elite big business interests. Their interest is Islam, and having the entire world believe and worship in an Islamic manner.

Three is us. The various anti-globalist factions. You have groups in the US who don't want our national sovreignty destroyed. Groups like yours. Most Africans probably don't want their homes turned into yet another mining pit for foreign benefit. What's left of the Afrikaner population, probably not happy. The problem in Africa is that the whites have the know how, the blacks have the numbers, but both sides hate each other.

Also, whole nations (Brazil) have no particular interest in joining a supra-national organization. Just look at what they are doing concerning the World Bank, and IMF, and their growing fuel independence.


Well folks, the 21st century will be interesting if nothing else.

For_England

For what it is worth - and who can predict the future - I think rather the reverse. You cannot escape in Britain, and everybody is waking up to the fact that they have lost control of the political process. Culture and roots run deep in Britain, and I think people are waking up to what is being done to them. In America however - a country I have lived in for many years - people are still largely chasing the dollar. People can escape to the suburbs and pretend everything is alright. You are divided between 'conservative' and 'liberal', but both are blind to the encroachment of big government. The religious right is okay with the takeover of big business because their president is waging a crusade against Islam - which they see as the number 1 threat. Meanwhile gm foods, superhighways, global corporations, massive debt, centralisation of power, and unhindered immigration, continue to erode everything you are. A few speak up - the Buchanans, the Jared Taylors. But not many. Even O'Reilly and Pat Robertson support the fascist dictatorship that has your country for another year. Britain, along with Europe, is heading towards civil war and much bloodshed. But they will, I am confident, emerge victorious, and banish forever the cancers of political correctness, humanism and socialism, from their shores. America, on the other hand, I believe will continue to slide, the rich will continue to move around, minorities will continue to gain power and demographic dominion, and the left and right will continue to bicker while they both lose everything.

mordechai

A saying popular in America is "I love my country, but I fear my government."

To me, and a large number of other Americans, especially of the Conservative variety, our government and our country our different. The country is the land, and the people. The government is this leviathan that is trying to choke all of us to death.

All the problems which you mentioned are also present in Britain, except, you don't have as much land space. Well, realize something. The groups of people against the NAU in America are all over the place, and widely ranging in age, demographics, etc.

And, there is an advantage in the lack of traditions, and national beliefs. America is many nations morphed into one. It is Europe's refugees with a spattering of Indians (our Indians, not the subcontinentals), and Blacks. Because of this, we don't see our government as an extended family. And, we don't have loyalty to them because we are the same ethnicity.

And, we fought a bloody revolution against a government that, at the time, was ethnically the same, troops, who were ethnically similar. But, when it came down to getting it done, we did it. And we can do it again. We'd just prefer to not have to actually fight a bloody revolt. Political activism is the prefered method.

You say these things, but I really wonder, is it true? Is not the fact that Britain is a relatively ethnically homogenous place a bad thing? You would know more than I.

But, whatever happens, learn the following lessons.

#1.) Blood is NOT thicker than water. If the political works, don't place nice. These people whatever their ethnic origins are about power over you. If the day should come G-d forbid, and you have to take 'em out. Do it.

#2.) England is an island off the coast of Europe. Never forget it. England is not Parliament, Prime Ministers, etc. It is the island, and those that have the concept of England (culturally) in their hearts. Never allow the government to take the place of the land, and your inner-beliefs or co-opt them.

Basically, all I'm trying to say is you must cultivate the concept that you love your country and fear your government. If you can do this, you may not only survive, but thrive.

Alex McKee

England is not an island of the coast of Europe, it is one nation in a United Kingdom, geographically situated on an archipeligo of the coast of Europe.

Please do not oversimplify our glorious nation ;-)

John Carter

Fixed.

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Alex McKee

The wink was supposed to indicate exactly that sentiment, John
GMTA.