hello good people...

the newidea · 16-04-2006, 04:12 PM

hi, this is the newidea i have lost my interest in the torie party due to many reasons one of which is Mr Cameron. cant stand the man, his polocies are wrong, his morals are very nu labour and most of all he is a mirror image of tony blair claiming to sit on the right not the left. Ukip gets my vote as they stand up aginst issues and publicy express their veiws...

B.A.Ware · 16-04-2006, 04:29 PM

Welcome newidea, its good news that some people are finally seeing the light.

It’s a great forum with some great people. Where about in the country are you from?

C_steam · 16-04-2006, 04:48 PM

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Ukip gets my vote as they stand up aginst issues and publicy express their veiws

with quotes like that you should be asking 'what planet' BA!

B.A.Ware · 16-04-2006, 04:51 PM

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'what planet' BA!

Well spotted C_Steam

Intbel · 17-04-2006, 07:21 AM

TheConservative Party can not get better.
It is too ill.
Struck down by a self inflicted terminal desease.

It can only die a slow, agonising death.

Only then will it be able to be re-born as an effective opposition.

If the Tory Party really wanted to garner the support of the majority of the country it would stand firmly against the EU as does UKIP.

It won't, of course, nomore than the other two identically-inclined parties.

the newidea · 17-04-2006, 11:20 AM

well thank you... i have noticed that there is a mjority saying the tories will never change, anyway that just confirms what i thought. and as i said above if they elect nu labour types INTO phpbb_their camp how can we ever get anywhere or away from the centre ground? PAHH i am done with them...

what do we think of the BNP getting some grounding?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...138301,00.html

John Page · 17-04-2006, 11:40 AM

Oh good, another visitor from the English Democrats to ukipforum posting about the Tories.

C_steam · 17-04-2006, 01:24 PM

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what do we think of the BNP getting some grounding?

It's great. It shows a real alternative party is needed. It shows our UKIP "Leadership" (using the word to indicate who, not actually as a descriptor of 'leaders", you understand) the missed opportunity they had, and it shows our membership that the sooner a vote of no confidence is called the better.

Britannist · 19-04-2006, 02:31 AM

UKIP needs to target. All other small parties are doing this - Greens, English Democrats, Scottish Nationalists, Welsh Nationalists and Dr. Paisley's DUP. The Scottish/Welsh Nationals together have 8 seats in the Commons having fought against Lab/Con/LD and won. The DUP - through carefull targeting and a full range of policies - have 9 Commons seats and are now the fourth biggest party in the House of Commons.

UKIP needs to campaign at local level long before the three week local election campaign begins. UKIP also needs to develop strategies for fighting EU; UK General Elections; London Assembly; Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament elections long before such polls take place. :shock:

peter · 30-04-2006, 07:34 PM

Strategies are good.

View Poll Results: can the torie party change for the better?
yes	5	23.81%
no	12	57.14%
not in my lifetime	4	19.05%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

16-04-2006, 04:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
the newidea Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4	hello good people... hi, this is the newidea i have lost my interest in the torie party due to many reasons one of which is Mr Cameron. cant stand the man, his polocies are wrong, his morals are very nu labour and most of all he is a mirror image of tony blair claiming to sit on the right not the left. Ukip gets my vote as they stand up aginst issues and publicy express their veiws...

17-04-2006, 07:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Intbel Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a field near you - look for the yellow and purple tent ... Posts: 4,665	TheConservative Party can not get better. It is too ill. Struck down by a self inflicted terminal desease. It can only die a slow, agonising death. Only then will it be able to be re-born as an effective opposition. If the Tory Party really wanted to garner the support of the majority of the country it would stand firmly against the EU as does UKIP. It won't, of course, nomore than the other two identically-inclined parties. __________________ We are all free to choose - every step of the way - no exceptions.

19-04-2006, 02:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	UKIP must target and plan campaigns well in advance... UKIP needs to target. All other small parties are doing this - Greens, English Democrats, Scottish Nationalists, Welsh Nationalists and Dr. Paisley's DUP. The Scottish/Welsh Nationals together have 8 seats in the Commons having fought against Lab/Con/LD and won. The DUP - through carefull targeting and a full range of policies - have 9 Commons seats and are now the fourth biggest party in the House of Commons. UKIP needs to campaign at local level long before the three week local election campaign begins. UKIP also needs to develop strategies for fighting EU; UK General Elections; London Assembly; Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament elections long before such polls take place. :shock:

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16-04-2006, 04:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
B.A.Ware Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,159 Party: UKIP	Welcome newidea, its good news that some people are finally seeing the light. It’s a great forum with some great people. Where about in the country are you from?

17-04-2006, 11:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
the newidea Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4	well thank you... i have noticed that there is a mjority saying the tories will never change, anyway that just confirms what i thought. and as i said above if they elect nu labour types INTO phpbb_their camp how can we ever get anywhere or away from the centre ground? PAHH i am done with them... what do we think of the BNP getting some grounding? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...138301,00.html

17-04-2006, 11:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
John Page Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Welwyn Hatfield (Herts.) Posts: 1,878	Oh good, another visitor from the English Democrats to ukipforum posting about the Tories.

30-04-2006, 07:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
peter Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 55	Strategies are good.