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Simon · 22-10-2005, 09:38 PM

Brownshirts in Blazers? The Rise of UKIP

Simon · 22-10-2005, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex McKee

Why don't you try sorting out your party first eh mate?

I'm not a member.

But the BNP seem to be sorting themselves out quite OK.

How many members does Youthkip have? 4? 7?

Alex McKee · 22-10-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex McKee

Why don't you try sorting out your party first eh mate?

I'm not a member.

But the BNP seem to be sorting themselves out quite OK.

How many members does Youthkip have? 4? 7?

Not privy to give out that information. You're well off though.

WindupMerchant · 22-10-2005, 09:51 PM

UKIP employed Max Clifford eh :?: £30,000 per month eh :?:
Simon has made a few valid points, but I think they will get deleted soon by the moderators :cry: It seems to me at this point of time that in any by-elections being contested the BNP are progressive with regard to actual percentage of votes where they contest a seat and the UKIP are in the decline this could be due to the more central ground that UKIP are trying to go to whilst BNP are bravely sticking to their core values.

smooveOp · 22-10-2005, 09:57 PM

An interesting article Simon

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During the June elections anti-racists rightly concentrated on preventing the BNP from winning seats, but it would be a mistake to underestimate the threat posed by UKIP. In contrast to the BNP, whose fascist origins have proved a heavy electoral liability, UKIP’s more "mainstream" racism is capable of winning much wider support. If an extreme right-wing party with a broad popular base is to emerge in Britain, it is likely to take this form.

But the source, coming from you, is extremely surprising...

"What Next? Marxist Discussion Journal"

Simon · 22-10-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex McKee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex McKee

Why don't you try sorting out your party first eh mate?

I'm not a member.

But the BNP seem to be sorting themselves out quite OK.

How many members does Youthkip have? 4? 7?

Not privy to give out that information. You're well off though.

In double figures yet?

Simon · 22-10-2005, 10:01 PM

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But the source, coming from you, is extremely surprising...

"What Next? Marxist Discussion Journal"

Some UKIP members have given links to Searchlight/StoptheBNP.com to "proove" that the BNP is racist/homophobic/nazi/evil/etc.

So why can't I give links to anti-racist websites that don't like UKIP?

smooveOp · 22-10-2005, 10:14 PM

I don't mind at all but given your political stance I'm suprised that you believe that anything from such a source carries even a grain of truth.

Simon · 22-10-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by smooveOp

I don't mind at all but given your political stance I'm suprised that you believe that anything from such a source carries even a grain of truth.

Do you want me to find another source?

UKIP members seem quite happy to accept what the BBC tell them about the BNP, despite the BBC being far left pro EU.

smooveOp · 22-10-2005, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon

Do you want me to find another source?

Yes please Simon. I'd like to see another one.

If things are truely as you suggest commonsense would dictate that all "intelligent" BNP types (...if that isn't an oxymoron) should join their colleagues in UKIP.

They would certainly appear more mainstream.

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WindupMerchant Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,508	UKIP employed Max Clifford eh :?: £30,000 per month eh :?: Simon has made a few valid points, but I think they will get deleted soon by the moderators :cry: It seems to me at this point of time that in any by-elections being contested the BNP are progressive with regard to actual percentage of votes where they contest a seat and the UKIP are in the decline this could be due to the more central ground that UKIP are trying to go to whilst BNP are bravely sticking to their core values.

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smooveOp Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Middlesex Posts: 571	I don't mind at all but given your political stance I'm suprised that you believe that anything from such a source carries even a grain of truth.