WE REQUIRE RADICAL CHANGES!!!

TEEN UKIP · 26-01-2005, 01:04 PM

Both Labour and Conservative have swayed Britain in all directions bar the one in which it should be going, forward. With Labours referendum on full conjunction with the EU (Brussels) and the Conservatives copy-cat attitude towards UKIP the time for action is now. The next general election is coming up, you know who to choose.

mkpdavies · 26-01-2005, 01:11 PM

I do!

I just hope the rest of Britain does.

Idealy I would like to see a true anti-EU candidate win in every seat! I don't particularly care which party they are from, as long as they are not the mainstream parties. They have proven they can't be trusted.

Of course I am backing UKIP as the biggest anti-EU voice out there at the moment. The fact they are a very libertarian party that share a lot of my values helps me want to support them!

mike.hunt.hertz · 09-03-2005, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I do!

I just hope the rest of Britain does.

Idealy I would like to see a true anti-EU candidate win in every seat! I don't particularly care which party they are from, as long as they are not the mainstream parties. They have proven they can't be trusted.

Of course I am backing UKIP as the biggest anti-EU voice out there at the moment. The fact they are a very libertarian party that share a lot of my values helps me want to support them!

Personally, I would have thought nthe BNP are the only true anti E.U party. I don't care if they are racist. That's besides the point.

More independent politicians are needed. The party system is corrupt! :

Robert Edwards · 09-03-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I do!
I just hope the rest of Britain does.
Idealy I would like to see a true anti-EU candidate win in every seat! I don't particularly care which party they are from, as long as they are not the mainstream parties. They have proven they can't be trusted.
Of course I am backing UKIP as the biggest anti-EU voice out there at the moment. The fact they are a very libertarian party that share a lot of my values helps me want to support them!

Personally, I would have thought nthe BNP are the only true anti E.U party. I don't care if they are racist. That's besides the point.
More independent politicians are needed. The party system is corrupt! :

Mike has a point there, chaps. They have been at it longer.

mkpdavies · 09-03-2005, 09:46 AM

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Personally, I would have thought nthe BNP are the only true anti E.U party. I don't care if they are racist. That's besides the point.

It isn't beside the point to me. If I have the choice between a Nazi, racist Britain, that treats people according to the colour of their skin, then that is probably worse than being swallowed up by the EU.

Racist regimes are shunned by the world, and rightly so. Britain would become a tin pot, poor nation that really was isolated. Zimbabwe would look like a rich nation compared to us.

No thanks!

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More independent politicians are needed. The party system is corrupt! :

I agree! Unfortunately, independents do not have the resources and help required to often make break throughs, nevermind getting people to break out of their voting habits. How do you suggest that can be changed?

mike.hunt.hertz · 09-03-2005, 06:10 PM

One thing I'll say about the Nazis, is they ran a better economy than " the chosen"! They had an honest banking system.

It would be difficult to have independents succeed in a first past the post system.

Basically they must be more populist. Nothing wrong with that. What's a racist anyway ? These people that call others racists are dopes. Being called a racist by these PC clowns is a badge I can wear with pride!

If you have immigrants involved in too much crime given their representation in the population, or if you have a migrant people who believe in forced marriage I say get rid of 'em...who needs them

Pakistans, forced marriage. This is not on the BNP manifesto

Hi crime rate among Afro Carribeans Not in BNP culture or practise

Looks like the BNP are streaks ahead

Independence Now! · 09-03-2005, 06:10 PM

The BNP is NOT 'NAZI'. The party doesn't plan to abolish free elections, lock people up for expressing different viewpoints (this happens in Britain today in fact) or approves of people being put under 'house arrest' (that's Bliar's Labour Party doing that) or start unjustified, agressive wars based upon lies (again Bliar's already doing that)

The question you UKIP lot have to answer is this: How do you think that a country like Britain was ever persuaded to give-up its independence in the first place? It's simple actually: you flood a country with foreign immigrants and bogus 'asylum-seekers' thereby diluting its nationhood and national identity to such an extent that its people think what is the point of national sovereignty when we are not ourselves anymore?

And what is the point of being independent if the country has turned INTO phpbb_a foreign land anyway? Answer these questions and stop blindly insulting the BNP with juvenile and untrue statements picked-up unimaginatively from the far-left. :twisted:

mkpdavies · 09-03-2005, 06:52 PM

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One thing I'll say about the Nazis, is they ran a better economy than " the chosen"! They had an honest banking system.

If you call steeling all the Jewish peoples wealth honest! :roll:

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Being called a racist by these PC clowns is a badge I can wear with pride!

If you think white people are superior and have more right to be on this planet, then you are a true racist. Good job most people like this can't read, as the badge actualy says ignore me.

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Looks like the BNP are streaks ahead

Just about infront of the amoeba maybe, but it will need a photo.

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The question you UKIP lot have to answer is this: How do you think that a country like Britain was ever persuaded to give-up its independence in the first place?

Not sure why we have to answer that. We have been saying it was done without the people knowledge for some time. Try to pay attention.

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It's simple actually: you flood a country with foreign immigrants and bogus 'asylum-seekers' thereby diluting its nationhood and national identity to such an extent that its people think what is the point of national sovereignty when we are not ourselves anymore?

Interesting theory. Not one that has been used up until now, but you may be right about the future.

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And what is the point of being independent if the country has turned INTO phpbb_a foreign land anyway?

Hence UKIP is fighting to keep immigration at a more realistic level.

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Answer these questions and stop blindly insulting the BNP with juvenile and untrue statements picked-up unimaginatively from the far-left.

Answered them. So now I can again reiterate that the BNP's policy of blaming everything on skin colour is at best STUPID and at worst NAZI.

Robert Edwards · 09-03-2005, 07:12 PM

I think it was the Austrian Freedom Party leader, Jorg Haider, who was ostracised for acknowledging the economic achievements of Nazi Germany, which were considerable.
Low unemployment, housing developments, Auotbahnen, state-subsidised holidays (Strength through Joy) and support for the family unit.
There was also a very good health service ... and all after the Nazis were voted INTO phpbb_power.

mkpdavies · 09-03-2005, 07:13 PM

Yeah, we know your a big fan of the Nazi methods.

26-01-2005, 01:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
TEEN UKIP Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1	WE REQUIRE RADICAL CHANGES!!! Both Labour and Conservative have swayed Britain in all directions bar the one in which it should be going, forward. With Labours referendum on full conjunction with the EU (Brussels) and the Conservatives copy-cat attitude towards UKIP the time for action is now. The next general election is coming up, you know who to choose.

26-01-2005, 01:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,083 Party: Libertarian Party	I do! I just hope the rest of Britain does. Idealy I would like to see a true anti-EU candidate win in every seat! I don't particularly care which party they are from, as long as they are not the mainstream parties. They have proven they can't be trusted. Of course I am backing UKIP as the biggest anti-EU voice out there at the moment. The fact they are a very libertarian party that share a lot of my values helps me want to support them! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

09-03-2005, 06:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
mike.hunt.hertz Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oz Posts: 10	One thing I'll say about the Nazis, is they ran a better economy than " the chosen"! They had an honest banking system. It would be difficult to have independents succeed in a first past the post system. Basically they must be more populist. Nothing wrong with that. What's a racist anyway ? These people that call others racists are dopes. Being called a racist by these PC clowns is a badge I can wear with pride! If you have immigrants involved in too much crime given their representation in the population, or if you have a migrant people who believe in forced marriage I say get rid of 'em...who needs them Pakistans, forced marriage. This is not on the BNP manifesto Hi crime rate among Afro Carribeans Not in BNP culture or practise Looks like the BNP are streaks ahead __________________ Mike

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,083 Party: Libertarian Party	Yeah, we know your a big fan of the Nazi methods. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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09-03-2005, 06:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Independence Now! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,096	The BNP is NOT 'NAZI'. The party doesn't plan to abolish free elections, lock people up for expressing different viewpoints (this happens in Britain today in fact) or approves of people being put under 'house arrest' (that's Bliar's Labour Party doing that) or start unjustified, agressive wars based upon lies (again Bliar's already doing that) The question you UKIP lot have to answer is this: How do you think that a country like Britain was ever persuaded to give-up its independence in the first place? It's simple actually: you flood a country with foreign immigrants and bogus 'asylum-seekers' thereby diluting its nationhood and national identity to such an extent that its people think what is the point of national sovereignty when we are not ourselves anymore? And what is the point of being independent if the country has turned INTO phpbb_a foreign land anyway? Answer these questions and stop blindly insulting the BNP with juvenile and untrue statements picked-up unimaginatively from the far-left. :twisted:

09-03-2005, 07:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Robert Edwards Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ramsgate, Kent, UK Posts: 1,110 Party: Other	I think it was the Austrian Freedom Party leader, Jorg Haider, who was ostracised for acknowledging the economic achievements of Nazi Germany, which were considerable. Low unemployment, housing developments, Auotbahnen, state-subsidised holidays (Strength through Joy) and support for the family unit. There was also a very good health service ... and all after the Nazis were voted INTO phpbb_power.