British Democracy Forum
Web | Images | Groups | News | Advanced
Google
Worldwide Results UK Focused Results

Go Back   British Democracy Forum > The Lounge > Introduce Yourself


You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-03-2005, 05:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Robert Edwards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ramsgate, Kent, UK
Posts: 1,110
Party: Other
Robert Edwards is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
Why the attack on Teen UKIP
Why is it always an "attack"? It was merely a quip. In fact, it was an observation made by a friend of mine which made me suspicious of people who pose as younger. It is very common on Internet chat rooms.

Quote:
mkpdavies Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EX NF, posters on ultra racist sites tend to attack whoever they can.
Takes all sorts.
Here again, the word "attack" used to suggest something other than normal debate. Martyn Heale, Nigel Farage's election agent in South Thanet and former South Thanet chairman, is ex-NF.
I am not sure what "takes all sorts" means in this context but it sounds dismissive.

Quote:
Tom Wilde Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote:
The BNP is NOT 'NAZI'.
This gave me a good laugh. I thought about posting all the usual stuff about similarities between the BNP and the Nazis, but I've done that before once so instead I thought I'd have a cheap laugh by posting a couple of links to pics of BNP types doing Prince Harry impersonations.
First, here is the BNP's Chief Steward Warren Bennett trying to hail a taxi:
http://www.anl.org.uk/images/who/who-Bennett.jpg
Here's their ex-leader John Tyndall:
http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/s...vered/pg02.htm
Snazzy outfit, John! Here it is again:
http://www.anl.org.uk/images/tyndal.jpg
http://www.anl.org.uk/09-britain-nazis.htm
This page has a couple of great quotes on the subject of democracy. First John Tyndall:
Quote:
‘Democracy drives our youth onto the streets with limitless spare time to fritter away, the Jew comes forward and seduces them with his cunningly devised amusements, such as comic papers, sex films and rock and roll’ (John Tyndall in The Authoritarian State).
Then current BNP fuehrer Nick Griffin:
Quote:
‘The electors of Millwall [backed] what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan ‘Defend Rights for Whites’ with well directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate’ (quoted in Searchlight, June 1997).
Tom Wilde quotes Searchlight at length. What he omits is what Searchlight says about UKIP ... now that is a real laugh!
It is not difficult to dredge up these reports for your enlightenment ... specifically links between UKIP and the BNP.
You like to label others as racist because you do not like the electors throwing that term of abuse against you.
Visit http://www.tyndallexposed.com for the latest news. More accurate than the Marxist Searchlight organisation.

Quote:
White knight Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:54 am Post subject:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've had a look at stormfront.org. Independence now or brentford racist, as he's know on that site make it very clear how they feels about ukip himself and buddies are obvious NF hiding within BNP they are very insulting towards ukip so i talk straight and truthful how i feel about their racism.
I respect the service you contributed for your country i myself served in the TA for a number of years in Infantry(rifle volunteers).I don't question your patriotism but linking with racists may come across misguided.
They make out we're all old men in ukip,even thought i feel older! i am only 39. I understand it is easy to admire the German ingenuity what they accomplish, it was a shame it was driven by a insane mad man.
The one thing we agree on is we're both proud to call ourselfs British.
At last, a polite and rational response from a true patriot. If you go to my postings on Stormfront you will find I do not always go along with the more strident attitudes and that I often call for restraints and moderation on some issues.
White Knight, you are free to talk straight, that is how we like it, and we do not take offence as a result. We admire you for that.
There are one or two people on Stormfront who express views that I feel are hate-filled. I have confronted them on that attitude and do not back down. There are others on it who are not so and would probably be on your reasoned level.
Talking of all older men in UKIP, I went along to see a UKIP public meeting near to where I live and I found about 20 people and not one of them could have been younger that 65. This was in Minster Village Hall in Thanet.
I am sure the average age of BNP members would be far younger for some obvious reasons. The accusation of "racism" does not bother them and many wear it like a badge of pride. The BNP would be more inclined to have a greater cross-section of membership, cutting across class lines.
As you say, it is easy to recognise the achievements of Nazi Germany. To say that it achieved nothing would be absurd. The atrocities committed in wartime were an aspect of human nature that persists today, especially with those who want to impose "freedom" by force. I refer to democratic nations.
I am very pleased we both appreciate that pride in being British ... what else could we be?
Robert Edwards is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!

You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Old 10-03-2005, 05:42 AM   #22 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oz
Posts: 10
mike.hunt.hertz is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by White knight
BNP dosn't represent England of the past or the future,not for one moment would i want to live in germany of 1939-45 you admire a society driven by bitterness and hatred that took millions of lives to stop.Go back to your goose stepping web site,my father and his mates didn't battle in WW2 for Nazi loonie party to take over!
No our fathers fought WW2 to stop a nation's commercial independence albeit unknowingly, and handed eastern Europe over to the "Bolshsevics " so much for Churchill statement re the defence of small nations

No one likes brutality issued by any party, but I ask you, UKIP stands for British independence, well, you don't care about German economic independence. tha's apparent by an email regarding nazis "stealing " jewish money "

Now, you mentioned the word "Jew", not me! You stated the Nazis stole Jewish money. Question! How were the Jews so wealthy, as they were, in times of hyperinflation while Germans were literally starving. Hyperinflation of course is man made. It's a form of theft and the Nazis weren't in power at this stage

I put it to you, commercial jews totally raped Germany commercially and were doing so since the treaty of Versailles where 117 jews attended the talks.

They stole from Germans, not the other way around. If Hitler, or "Billy the Blacksmith " wishes to return stolen goods to his people,fine!

Or do you suggest that nazis were crucifying Jews for nothing. "Crucifying "! That's a word they try to ignore!

You see, when you put 6 million people (that figure again) back to work, as Hitler did, and when they have to be paid, as The Nazis paid them, i guess rogues will be upset when their ability to steal is removed, so they see powerful friends to get rid of the nuisance

Seems to me Hitler has paid the price for losing the war which went ahead in spite of a powerful peace movement in Britain

British Empire countries like the Home countries and Oz, New Zealand actually lived in a National Socialist political unit after the war as we did things Hitler did, like give money for the dole and pensions. Your long suffering friends removed the pensions system instituted by Bismarck and reinstated by Hitler and are now, today trying to do the same thing!

UKIP should have bank nationalisation and the power to issue the currency given back to the Government on their platform

Until you have those things, independence is a pipe dream
__________________
Mike
mike.hunt.hertz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Old 10-03-2005, 06:05 AM   #23 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oz
Posts: 10
mike.hunt.hertz is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Intbel
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike.hunt.hertz
If you have immigrants involved in too much crime given their representation in the population ... I say get rid of 'em...who needs them.
Not without first examining the causes of this disproportion.
The cause is cultural differences and the narrowmindedness of others to accept British culture of the home culture where they live.

The fault lies with elected pollies who allow it to go on!
__________________
Mike
mike.hunt.hertz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Old 10-03-2005, 06:07 AM   #24 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oz
Posts: 10
mike.hunt.hertz is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mkpdavies
EX NF, posters on ultra racist sites tend to attack whoever they can.

Takes all sorts.
but that stays on the site. On the street, confrontation between left and right usual is provoked by the left
mike.hunt.hertz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Old 10-03-2005, 06:20 AM   #25 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oz
Posts: 10
mike.hunt.hertz is just starting out
Default

Here's their ex-leader John Tyndall:
http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/s...vered/pg02.htm

S

If you choose to read searchlight, you associated yourself with it's [SNIPPED - no libellous accusations please!], albeit unknowingly For the sake of you're own reputation I hope you recognize "searchlight " for what it is!
mike.hunt.hertz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Old 10-03-2005, 09:04 AM   #26 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North East England
Posts: 6,814
Party: Popular Democrats
Hartlepool has some supporters
Default

Yeh, and your probably one of those bitter old women who has never done much with their lives. Kinda Eva Braun on the inside,and Dame Edna Everage on the outside. On yer bike Bob,we're busy on this Forum with real Patriots,not people who like to lean on little old people and kids. Your cause is going nowhere,its the same as when you all started,doomed. If you get bored you should all have a run over to my areas.I'm sure the welcome will be memorable for you.

PS. Good luck with your Election efforts. Ha!
Hartlepool is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Old 10-03-2005, 09:18 AM   #27 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Robert Edwards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ramsgate, Kent, UK
Posts: 1,110
Party: Other
Robert Edwards is just starting out
Default

An intellectual writes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartlepool
Yeh, and your probably one of those bitter old women who has never done much with their lives. Kinda Eva Braun on the inside,and Dame Edna Everage on the outside. On yer bike Bob,we're busy on this Forum with real Patriots,not people who like to lean on little old people and kids. Your cause is going nowhere,its the same as when you all started,doomed. If you get bored you should all have a run over to my areas.I'm sure the welcome will be memorable for you.

PS. Good luck with your Election efforts. Ha!
Robert Edwards is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This site is owned and operated by MyCartel Limited © 2007. Hosting: BookFizz.
This site supports Label My Food and Politigg
My latest commercial site: Cell Phone News 2.0 - [Mobile version]

Mobile version

Politishop

eXTReMe Tracker
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0