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Old 09-03-2005, 07:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, we know your a big fan of the Nazi methods.
I am a big fan of achievement. What has the UKIP achieved?
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Old 09-03-2005, 07:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Giving the British people a real alternative to vote for.

Forcing the EU issue onto the agenda. We would have been signed up to everything by now if it wasn't for us.

I could go on, but I wouldn't want to keep you from the Stormfront board.
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Giving the British people a real alternative to vote for. Forcing the EU issue onto the agenda. We would have been signed up to everything by now if it wasn't for us.
I could go on, but I wouldn't want to keep you from the Stormfront board.
They all claim to be "a real alternative" ... that is just a claim not an achievement. The issue of Europe would be inevitable without UKIP ... it was a burning issue within the Tory Party, which spawned UKIP and its predecessor. Roger Knapman was a Tory MP.
Signed up for everything? A few MEPs in the European Parliament have behaved like clowns, with all sorts of misbehaviour as extra-curricula activity. Their impact as been minimal.
My drawing board comes before the Stormfront board ... and my animal welfare forum. So now you know!
It's a free country ... as the saying goes.
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BNP dosn't represent England of the past or the future,not for one moment would i want to live in germany of 1939-45 you admire a society driven by bitterness and hatred that took millions of lives to stop.Go back to your goose stepping web site,my father and his mates didn't battle in WW2 for Nazi loonie party to take over!

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BNP dosn't represent England of the past or the future,not for one moment would i want to live in germany of 1939-45 you admire a society driven by bitterness and hatred that took millions of lives to stop.Go back to your goose stepping web site,my father and his mates didn't battle in WW2 for Nazi loonie party to take over!
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First of all, I am not a member of the BNP. Let us first understand that. I have remained polite and sober ... I expect you to do the same.
Secondly, I am an ex-serviceman and so I do not need this old stuff about men fighting in the war for freedom and democracy. I volunteered for the British Army as a teenager ... what did you do?
I said I admired achievement ... I did not say I wanted a society driven by bitterness and hatred. The bitterness and hatred was a result of war.
All sides murdered millions of people, civilians suffering the most. They have been doing this only recently in Iraq and Afghanistan with their bombers.
Stormfromt is a web site I came across by chance and it is one I find challenging. So cut out this "goose-stepping" claptrap, you are just trying to be offensive but it does not work. I am as British as the next man.

PS: Teen UKIP is probably some doddery old man posing as someone young.
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EX NF, posters on ultra racist sites tend to attack whoever they can.

Takes all sorts.
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If you have immigrants involved in too much crime given their representation in the population ... I say get rid of 'em...who needs them.
Not without first examining the causes of this disproportion.
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The BNP is NOT 'NAZI'.
This gave me a good laugh. I thought about posting all the usual stuff about similarities between the BNP and the Nazis, but I've done that before once so instead I thought I'd have a cheap laugh by posting a couple of links to pics of BNP types doing Prince Harry impersonations.

First, here is the BNP's Chief Steward Warren Bennett trying to hail a taxi:
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Here's their ex-leader John Tyndall:
http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/s...vered/pg02.htm

Snazzy outfit, John! Here it is again:
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http://www.anl.org.uk/09-britain-nazis.htm
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‘Democracy drives our youth onto the streets with limitless spare time to fritter away, the Jew comes forward and seduces them with his cunningly devised amusements, such as comic papers, sex films and rock and roll’ (John Tyndall in The Authoritarian State).
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‘The electors of Millwall [backed] what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan ‘Defend Rights for Whites’ with well directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate’ (quoted in Searchlight, June 1997).
"Power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate". Hmm. Some democrat.
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I've had a look at stormfront.org. Independence now or brentford racist, as he's know on that site make it very clear how they feels about ukip himself and buddies are obvious NF hiding within BNP they are very insulting towards ukip so i talk straight and truthful how i feel about their racism.
I respect the service you contributed for your country i myself served in the TA for a number of years in Infantry(rifle volunteers).I don't question your patriotism but linking with racists may come across misguided.
They make out we're all old men in ukip,even thought i feel older! i am only 39. I understand it is easy to admire the German ingenuity what they accomplish, it was a shame it was driven by a insane mad man.
The one thing we agree on is we're both proud to call ourselfs British.
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