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Ian Smith · 24-01-2005, 02:56 PM

Hi folks,
I am treasurer of UKIP North Shropshire Branch, and selected PPC for North Shropshire.
I'm up against Owen Paterson - Conservative, he won 48.6% of the vote last election with a 63.1% turnout. Any tips on how I can run against him?

I have been out canvassing, the results from that show 33-42% of the people I have seen will vote for us! Having said that 47% were not in or did not want to commit themselves. Leaving 20% against us.

Any help would be usefull.

mkpdavies · 24-01-2005, 03:24 PM

Welocme.

Checking his info on public whip.

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?...rth+Shropshire

He clearly is a bit of a lacky. He has not stood up against the Iraq war, ID cards. Looks like is chummy with Wokings Humphrey Malins, who at least stood up against the War (probably as we have a fair sized Muslim vote!).

So the first thing to attack him on is he rarley speaks his own mind.

He is backing the Conservatives useless immigration policy. The EU won't allow what they are saying they will do. See his website.

http://www.owenpaterson.org.uk/

He seems to show a lot of interest in Fisheries and Agriculture (well he is shadow minister!!!). We all know what the EU has done to those industries, so you may want to press him on how he still supports an EU loving party. For all his jollies he has had up to Scotland, what has he actually acheived for them?

Some facts for you constituency that you may already be aware off.

He backed IDS to the hilt when they were trying to overthrow him. Loyalty to his leadership? Or sucking up to further his career?

http://clublet.com/c/c/why?ThoughtsOfChairmanTebbit

http://www.harlech.demon.co.uk/salopnth.html

Further evidence of his close ties with IDS

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/conse...690399,00.html

Quote:

There is one absolute certainty in politics: Duncan Smith is not going to win the next election. But Tony Blair might lose it over Iraq, the euro, taxes, and the bubbling rage of his own backbenchers. Duncan Smith's job as Tory leader is to try and help by presenting himself as an alternative prime minister. A Tory prime minister. The policies count, but the real battleground will be character. "It's a contest between two-faced charlatan Blair and Mr Straight," says Owen Paterson, the North Shropshire MP who led Duncan Smith's leadership campaign and is now one of his advisers. The question is, will the electorate see it in those terms?

And finally you only have to read this to see where he stands on the EU.

http://www.parliament.the-stationery...m/71210s07.htm

Quote:

Mr. Owen Paterson (North Shropshire): Having, in my previous incarnation, travelled widely in Europe, including eastern Europe, I wholeheartedly welcome the extension of the market and the Union further east to the new countries. They were bombarded for half a century with propaganda to come and join the free world and I welcome their entry. However, we are faced with an abomination against God and man in the CAP. I shall give a few examples of how outrageous it has become.

In 1995 the European Union spent £802 million on tobacco subsidies and then introduced the current campaign on tobacco advertising with crocodile tears. An incredible 657,000 tonnes of Greek peaches were ploughed INTO phpbb_the ground in 1995. The CAP is in breach of the treaty of Rome because the three pillars of intervention--tariffs, barriers and subsidies--all contravene the treaty; that was confirmed by the House of Lords in a report a couple of years ago. I would like the Minister to explain the Government's opinion on that. My farmers bitterly resent the absurd bureaucracy which has reached Kafka-esque levels. In Denmark, 29,000 officials look after 29,000 farmers, which is absurd.

The CAP ignores the fact that there is a daily market for food. It is totally production oriented. It is a ghastly parody of Gosplan and the COMECON and has failed. The CAP does not respect the fact that there is a daily market, which should be left to decide price and production.

We have heard much about BSE. At the height of the BSE crisis last year, large exporters of beef who buy from my constituents were being rung every day by customers supplying the highest quality restaurants in France, Italy and Belgium asking if they could get round the ban. The amount of meat was significant--five to seven truckloads a week to France and Italy and three or four truckloads to Holland and Belgium. It should be left to people and the market to decide whether something is healthy.

I wholeheartedly welcome the Minister's criticism of the CAP, but the Government's record in the past few months does not suggest that they understand that the market should be left to decide. Instead, we have seen panic reactions oriented to placating bossy media personalities who have significant radio and television time.

Two weeks ago we debated the absurd burdens imposed on abattoirs by requiring them to remove the spinal cord and special offal from sheep meat. There is absolutely no justification for doing that on health grounds.

Pro-EU, anti-CAP. How convienient. Just like the party line, a gutless surrender to the EU is all he has on his mind.

mkpdavies · 24-01-2005, 03:25 PM

I forgot to add, if your second name is Duncan, he will probably support you!

24-01-2005, 02:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ian Smith Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Market Drayton, Shropshire Posts: 2	New Member Hi folks, I am treasurer of UKIP North Shropshire Branch, and selected PPC for North Shropshire. I'm up against Owen Paterson - Conservative, he won 48.6% of the vote last election with a 63.1% turnout. Any tips on how I can run against him? I have been out canvassing, the results from that show 33-42% of the people I have seen will vote for us! Having said that 47% were not in or did not want to commit themselves. Leaving 20% against us. Any help would be usefull.

24-01-2005, 03:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,083 Party: Libertarian Party	I forgot to add, if your second name is Duncan, he will probably support you! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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