Greetings from Brussels

EP Employee · 01-12-2004, 12:06 PM

Greetings from Brussels. I'm 25, non-party attached, massively Eurosceptic, working in the the European Parliament in Brussels.

Fear not; I work for an anti-EU intergroup, often alongside UKIP (for whom I voted in the last election).

Anyway, hello.

Nigel Garage · 01-12-2004, 12:14 PM

Hello! Can you tell us what our MEPs are up to?

Bellatrix · 01-12-2004, 01:46 PM

I can, and may as well introduce myself here.

I work for John Whittaker and the group in Brussels. Tune in to the plenary session to see what they are up to!

doc_cruel · 04-12-2004, 05:17 PM

Dont you feel a bit guilty working for the EU being anti-european..... kinda like an American working for Arab terrorists in Iraq?

Anthony Butcher · 04-12-2004, 06:29 PM

UKIP is not anti-European, we are against Britain's membership of the EU.

The EU is part of our government for the moment, and so we must take part in it, if only to try and slow down the rate of assimilation.

doc_cruel · 04-12-2004, 07:07 PM

With all respect Anthony I don't think we can really differentiate between the EU and Europe.

- If they felt the same way as us there wouldn't be an EU.... but how many anti-European parties do you hear of in Ireland, Finland or anywhere else? ok there are a few but by enlarge we're the only true serious anti-EU party in Strasbourg.

We're either out or in.... and I for one want us to be out.

C_steam · 04-12-2004, 07:33 PM

Of course we can differentiate between the EU and Europe!

Europe is a generic term to represent a geographic collection of adjacent nations, the EU is an organisation aiming to meld the individual European countries INTO phpbb_a bureaucratic superstate.

UKIP wants out of the EU such that the UK can determine its own future, laws, regulations and governance. UKIP very much sees maintaining good relations with all other European nations as important, and aims to maintain import and export from these countries.

But I suspect you know that.......

doc_cruel · 04-12-2004, 07:43 PM

C_Steam - I think you missed my point.

The other countries have been invelloped by the EU, they adopted the Euro, sacked their boarder guards; You can drive from Portugal to Germany and not notice you've changed countries.

We simply cannot say they're a 'collection of adjacent nations' just as wales or scotland aren't simple 'adjacent' to England.

Once we leave I'm not saying that we dont want to sell our good to them; but lets be honest, we're not going to stop them from moving forward. Europe will most likely be a superstate within 30 years whether we like it not!

Anthony Butcher · 04-12-2004, 09:09 PM

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With all respect Anthony I don't think we can really differentiate between the EU and Europe.

We have to. The EU is now a separate entity. Norway, Switzerland and Iceland have all remained outside the EU.

It is meaningless to say that we are "anti-European", because we aren't. We have nothing against any European nation, we just don't want to be part of the EU.

And there are eurosceptic parties in other countries.

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If they felt the same way as us there wouldn't be an EU

Who do you mean by "they" and who do you mean by "us"? There are europhiles and eurosceptics in every country within Europe.

Bellatrix · 06-12-2004, 09:31 AM

I'd rather me, a anti-EU campaigner, worked here furthering the cause of UKIP than some socialist federalist.

I'm not anti-European. And hell, if other countries want to throw away their cultural identity, economty and independence, who am I to stop them? I just believe that there is only one route the UK should be taking, and that it out of the EU.

Europe is a nice place to buy cheese and go on holiday.

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EP Employee Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 55	Greetings from Brussels Greetings from Brussels. I'm 25, non-party attached, massively Eurosceptic, working in the the European Parliament in Brussels. Fear not; I work for an anti-EU intergroup, often alongside UKIP (for whom I voted in the last election). Anyway, hello.

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01-12-2004, 12:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nigel Garage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ashford Posts: 557	Hello! Can you tell us what our MEPs are up to?

01-12-2004, 01:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bellatrix Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 625	I can, and may as well introduce myself here. I work for John Whittaker and the group in Brussels. Tune in to the plenary session to see what they are up to!

04-12-2004, 05:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
doc_cruel Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 213	Dont you feel a bit guilty working for the EU being anti-european..... kinda like an American working for Arab terrorists in Iraq?

04-12-2004, 06:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,192 Party: None	UKIP is not anti-European, we are against Britain's membership of the EU. The EU is part of our government for the moment, and so we must take part in it, if only to try and slow down the rate of assimilation.

04-12-2004, 07:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
doc_cruel Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 213	With all respect Anthony I don't think we can really differentiate between the EU and Europe. - If they felt the same way as us there wouldn't be an EU.... but how many anti-European parties do you hear of in Ireland, Finland or anywhere else? ok there are a few but by enlarge we're the only true serious anti-EU party in Strasbourg. We're either out or in.... and I for one want us to be out.

04-12-2004, 07:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,797	Of course we can differentiate between the EU and Europe! Europe is a generic term to represent a geographic collection of adjacent nations, the EU is an organisation aiming to meld the individual European countries INTO phpbb_a bureaucratic superstate. UKIP wants out of the EU such that the UK can determine its own future, laws, regulations and governance. UKIP very much sees maintaining good relations with all other European nations as important, and aims to maintain import and export from these countries. But I suspect you know that.......

04-12-2004, 07:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
doc_cruel Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 213	C_Steam - I think you missed my point. The other countries have been invelloped by the EU, they adopted the Euro, sacked their boarder guards; You can drive from Portugal to Germany and not notice you've changed countries. We simply cannot say they're a 'collection of adjacent nations' just as wales or scotland aren't simple 'adjacent' to England. Once we leave I'm not saying that we dont want to sell our good to them; but lets be honest, we're not going to stop them from moving forward. Europe will most likely be a superstate within 30 years whether we like it not!

06-12-2004, 09:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bellatrix Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 625	I'd rather me, a anti-EU campaigner, worked here furthering the cause of UKIP than some socialist federalist. I'm not anti-European. And hell, if other countries want to throw away their cultural identity, economty and independence, who am I to stop them? I just believe that there is only one route the UK should be taking, and that it out of the EU. Europe is a nice place to buy cheese and go on holiday.