need help...

mkpdavies · 24-11-2004, 09:38 PM

Also see

http://www.savebritfish.org.uk/outfsh.htm

Which explains the Commons Fisheries Policy and why it has been such a disaster in particular to Britain.

snowangel · 24-11-2004, 09:38 PM

ok thank you...

also wanted to ask you what do you think about the Uk relations with US and Commonwealth. you see my essay is aslo on it so if you have some figures again or just some opinions do not hesitate.

mkpdavies · 24-11-2004, 09:41 PM

For the figures on how much the UK pays I think this site to be most accurate.

http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/featur...es/rebut2.html

The summary of which comes to

Quote:

In which case, over this 10-year period, assuming the 59 million population figure above, our gross contributions work out at £28.5million every day, £1.2million every hour and £1,763 for every man, woman and child in Britain!

Which is a lot of money for no benefit what so ever!

snowangel · 24-11-2004, 09:49 PM

thank you so much!
you won't believe me if i told you how many hours I search for some figures on the web!! If you have other web site as good as those don't hesitate to give them to me, whenever the subject is either on Uk-EU, Uk-US or Uk- Commonwealth and whatever this opinion!

mkpdavies · 24-11-2004, 09:58 PM

The US and Britain have a very strong relationship, and for good reasons. Throughout history our countries have helped each other during times of crisis. We share the same language of course and the amount of Brits working in the state, and vice versa means our cultures and aims are very similiar in a lot of ways. Due to the history of Britains settling in the states, and being part of the British empire, both countries often call each other cousins.

America is a superpower, and that power needs keeping in check sometimes. Here is where Britain comes in very useful to the world, as the States does hold Britain in high regard and will listen to what we have to say.

Unfortunately we have the worst Prime Minister in living history at the moment, who thinks being a good friend means saying yes and doing whatever they want. Please don't hold that against the whole of Britain, as we hate Blair probably more than anyone! He would sell his own grandmother if he thought it would make him a bit more powerful in the world. For him the saying power corrupts seems like an understatement.

The Commonwealth is what the EU should have been. A number of countries, working to use their friendship to help trade and co-operation on a number of matters. It is largely based on the history of Britain having an empire, but instead of everyone leaving the empire on bad terms, Britain worked hard on keeping links with all those countries, which I believe creates a unique bond between Britain and the rest of the world.

I would need to know what areas you would like figures on to quote some!

snowangel · 24-11-2004, 10:10 PM

ok i'm gonna think about it and ask you my questions tomorrow night. thank you for helping me. I will put your name in the bibliography of my essay ;-) good night and "see" you tomorrow

mkpdavies · 24-11-2004, 10:14 PM

No problem, you had better get an A!

Anthony Butcher · 24-11-2004, 10:52 PM

You may find the articles on this site useful:

http://www.bullen.demon.co.uk

Tom Wilde · 24-11-2004, 11:20 PM

Hello. I don't know if this helps, but there is an economist called Dr John Whittaker who was elected as a UKIP MEP in June. There is a brief interview with him here:

http://www.ukipnw.org/

It is not very in-depth, I'm afraid, but maybe this part is relevant:

Quote:

As an economist you have written about the dangers of the Euro. What are they?
National governments in eurozone countries can't set their own interest rates and there are restrictions on government budgets. So the government of a country whose economy is not working well - e.g. Germany - has no means of fixing it. Single currencies work alright in single countries, like the US where a state that's in economic difficulty will automatically receive support through the federal budget from states that are faring better. But the US federal budget is 20% of GDP - the equivalent funds available in the EU are less than 1% of GDP.
Eventually the euro will fall apart - with severe economic hardship - as the government of some country finds that it cannot pay its bills and sees fit to re-issue its national currency.

How do you counter the arguments that Britain's economy cannot afford to be left out of the EU?
These arguments usually claim we would lose trade with the EU and hence threaten UK jobs. But there is no way they would want to reduce their trade with us - we buy more from them than we sell them and it would not be in their interests. They still want to sell us wine and cars. Most nations of the world trade with the EU without being members. We should also be able to trade with the rest of the world unhindered by the EU's external tariffs.
The claim is also made that we would lose investment. Our opinion is that, free from EU rules and red-tape, we would attract more investment, not less. Britain is the 4th largest world economy with huge trade and investment links worldwide; it's ridiculous to claim we have to be in the EU.

John Whittaker's own website is here:
http://www.johnwhittakermep.co.uk/

but there isn't much detailed information there yet, just one speech about the Euro.

snowangel · 25-11-2004, 06:26 PM

thank you all for your help.
I think I have all the informations I need about the UK and the EU thanks to you.
If you could give me some figures about the trading between Uk and US and UK and Commonwealth. The only one I found are old and for the Commonwealth, I do not find any figure at all, only with each one of the members but not for the group.
thank you

24-11-2004, 09:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Also see http://www.savebritfish.org.uk/outfsh.htm Which explains the Commons Fisheries Policy and why it has been such a disaster in particular to Britain. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

24-11-2004, 09:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	The US and Britain have a very strong relationship, and for good reasons. Throughout history our countries have helped each other during times of crisis. We share the same language of course and the amount of Brits working in the state, and vice versa means our cultures and aims are very similiar in a lot of ways. Due to the history of Britains settling in the states, and being part of the British empire, both countries often call each other cousins. America is a superpower, and that power needs keeping in check sometimes. Here is where Britain comes in very useful to the world, as the States does hold Britain in high regard and will listen to what we have to say. Unfortunately we have the worst Prime Minister in living history at the moment, who thinks being a good friend means saying yes and doing whatever they want. Please don't hold that against the whole of Britain, as we hate Blair probably more than anyone! He would sell his own grandmother if he thought it would make him a bit more powerful in the world. For him the saying power corrupts seems like an understatement. The Commonwealth is what the EU should have been. A number of countries, working to use their friendship to help trade and co-operation on a number of matters. It is largely based on the history of Britain having an empire, but instead of everyone leaving the empire on bad terms, Britain worked hard on keeping links with all those countries, which I believe creates a unique bond between Britain and the rest of the world. I would need to know what areas you would like figures on to quote some! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

24-11-2004, 10:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	No problem, you had better get an A! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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24-11-2004, 09:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
snowangel Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	ok thank you... also wanted to ask you what do you think about the Uk relations with US and Commonwealth. you see my essay is aslo on it so if you have some figures again or just some opinions do not hesitate.

24-11-2004, 09:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
snowangel Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	thank you so much! you won't believe me if i told you how many hours I search for some figures on the web!! If you have other web site as good as those don't hesitate to give them to me, whenever the subject is either on Uk-EU, Uk-US or Uk- Commonwealth and whatever this opinion!

24-11-2004, 10:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
snowangel Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	ok i'm gonna think about it and ask you my questions tomorrow night. thank you for helping me. I will put your name in the bibliography of my essay ;-) good night and "see" you tomorrow

24-11-2004, 10:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 9,821 Party: None	You may find the articles on this site useful: http://www.bullen.demon.co.uk

25-11-2004, 06:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
snowangel Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	thank you all for your help. I think I have all the informations I need about the UK and the EU thanks to you. If you could give me some figures about the trading between Uk and US and UK and Commonwealth. The only one I found are old and for the Commonwealth, I do not find any figure at all, only with each one of the members but not for the group. thank you