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Thread: Afghanistan IS our Vietnam

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    Quote Originally Posted by British-Conservatism View Post
    I know quite a few who are there.
    Some are the biggest shithouses ive ever met.
    Of of my friends a Corporal had to hold a gun to the head of a female soldier because she would not drive into a battle zone to pick up wounded.
    Another was so scared he went awol for 4 days until he was found sleeping rough in a part dug trench.
    The people recruited today are not like they once were.

    Then why has it taken them three years to get their backside in Helmand Province? I have no respect for the American Armed Forces. They've let the British take the flak for a war that they instigated.
    You think the rest of the Afghan is a picnic do you?[/QUOTE]

    There have been people like that in the Army since it began. Did you not educate yourself that thousands of British men went awol in World War I and who could blame them after seeing what they saw? Being scared doesn't mean you are weak willed and not fit for the Army, it's natural. However those people should not be in the Army full stop.

    Of course not, but Helmand is the worst province by far, just like Basra was the worst province. The Americans for a superior nation as it and moronic anti-British Britons like yourself say, it sure as hell likes taking the easier options and objectives whilst managing to lose twice as many troops as the British Army.

    Yeah those Americans. They're superior alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP View Post
    Dream On.

    RAF: Eurofighter 16
    Tornado 195
    Harrier 67

    278 Combat aircraft

    Egyptian Air Force: MIG 21 45 (+53 Chinese built versions)
    F4 Phantom 25
    F-16 195
    Mirage 2000 15
    Mirage 5 58

    391 Combat Aircraft

    And the F-16 is a superior aircraft to the Tornado any day of the week.

    Your living in the far distant past, we might hold out against Belgium for a couple of days while we negotiate favorable terms of surrender.
    You're a disgrace mate and without sounding rude, It's people like you who should have died in Iraq, not the fantastic soldiers who love their country. You are a national disgrace and should be treated as a second class citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconian Monarch View Post
    You're a disgrace mate and without sounding rude, It's people like you who should have died in Iraq, not the fantastic soldiers who love their country. You are a national disgrace and should be treated as a second class citizen.
    No it's people like you who need to be sent to Iraq and Afghanistan as you support the wars there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by British-Conservatism View Post
    No it's people like you who need to be sent to Iraq and Afghanistan as you support the wars there.
    I agree. I would love to go out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconian Monarch View Post
    I agree. I would love to go out there.
    Then go sign up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by British-Conservatism View Post
    Then go sign up.
    I have a heart condition and cannot sign up. I tried several years ago and they were having none of it. I would be a liability in the Army, so I can understand why they refused me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconian Monarch View Post
    I have a heart condition and cannot sign up. I tried several years ago and they were having none of it. I would be a liability in the Army, so I can understand why they refused me.
    What a good excuse for the arm chair soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconian Monarch View Post
    That still doesn't explain why the US Paras cannot manage to complete British Pre-Parachute training?

    I don't buy into what you are saying, so bore off.

    Britain is superior to any other nation including the United States who seem to enjoy losing thousands of troops in places like Afghanistan and Iraq.
    Who gives a toss if they complete a training exercise? The 101st US Airborne DIVISION has been fighting in Baghdad these last five years whilst the Paras have been hiding in Basra Airport cutting deals with the local gangstas along with the rest of the British Army.

    The Americans lose more soldiers because:

    A. They've got twenty times more fighting.

    B. They do fight rather than play tea Party's with the local militias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by British-Conservatism View Post
    What a good excuse for the arm chair soldier.
    If you say so. I await to hear about your tails of serving on operations in Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP View Post
    Who gives a toss if they complete a training exercise? The 101st US Airborne DIVISION has been fighting in Baghdad these last five years whilst the Paras have been hiding in Basra Airport cutting deals with the local gangstas along with the rest of the British Army.

    The Americans lose more soldiers because:

    A. They've got twenty times more fighting.

    B. They do fight rather than play tea Party's with the local militias.
    Pure lies. They lose more soldiers because they are inferior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconian Monarch View Post
    You're a disgrace mate and without sounding rude, It's people like you who should have died in Iraq, not the fantastic soldiers who love their country. You are a national disgrace and should be treated as a second class citizen.
    They don't "love their country", most can't wait to get out and sign up as mecenaries for Big Oil in Iraq because they pay more. Lets be real, no-one in their right mind signs up " to fight for their country", that's not what the UK military do. There are good reasons to sign up, but patriotism isn't one of them.

    If they loved their country so badly they'd be back here fighting it's real enemies and not playing action man kiss chase with a load of mountain goats in Central Asia.

    I don't like it but that is the way it is and I'm not going to pretend it not just to conform to the latest outbreak of senseless militarist jingoism. Our military is a joke, like some tragic disabled kid mascot of the US Army.
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