Peak Food

For_England · 27-05-2008, 05:20 PM

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Peak Food is the moment in time when per capita availability of food in the world reaches a maximum and then begins to decline. As world reserve food stocks have now fallen to dangerous levels, and increased prices have failed to push up food production, it seems that Peak Food is here. When reserve stocks disappear, panic and hoarding will clear the shelves, adding to the problem.

But worse is to come as food production goes into serious and sudden decline for the following reasons:

* climate change
* oil and gas shortages
* cropland losses
* crops used for ethanol and biodiesel
* competition for water
* falling fish stocks
* population increases with millions in Asia eating more meat so needing more land per person when there is less.

Two of these factors - climate change and oil and gas shortages - could independently cause catastrophic reductions in world food supplies. But if they were to happen at the same time there could be world-wide famine.The West is especially vulnerable because we have now become dependent on unreliable countries such as Russia, Venezuela, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia and Iran for our food, just as surely as if the food was grown there. This is because our food production system has become totally dependent on oil to power the machines and trucks and to make the pesticides.

Peak Food What’s Peak Food?

tito · 27-05-2008, 09:05 PM

Bull-****.

For_England · 27-05-2008, 09:41 PM

you do surprise me.

tito · 27-05-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by For_England

you do surprise me.

I only wish I could say the same of you.

youcanhandlethetruth · 28-05-2008, 03:29 AM

hey tito - you're such a great debater !

BonnieDundee · 28-05-2008, 08:14 AM

I see the Whig view of history is strong with this objectivist.

The Bear · 28-05-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by For_England

Peak Food What’s Peak Food?

I'm inclined to agree with this.

It has a horrible rationality about it.

For_England · 28-05-2008, 10:34 AM

to be inclined is all any of us can be ... oh to have the simple mindset of Tito, where everything is figured out on the basis of a few economic beliefs.

tito · 29-05-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by For_England

to be inclined is all any of us can be ... oh to have the simple mindset of Tito, where everything is figured out on the basis of a few economic beliefs.

You can keep telling yourself that - if you wish.

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hey tito - you're such a great debater !

I know - but I'm not sure how you do.... I've never done it in front of you.

Hunter · 29-05-2008, 12:49 AM

Perhaps if the EU allowed all farmers in Europe to make use of their land to the full we wouldn't have any shortages.

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For_England Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,852	you do surprise me.

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Hunter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 820	Perhaps if the EU allowed all farmers in Europe to make use of their land to the full we wouldn't have any shortages.