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Old 11-05-2008, 10:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Very simple. If there are nations that sponsor terrorism then there is a need for regime changes in such nations.
No there is isn't. We shouldn't intervene in other countries, it just causes more problems.
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No there is isn't. We shouldn't intervene in other countries, it just causes more problems.
Yes, we sure caused a stir by declaring war on Hitler.

On the other hand, problems not dealt with inevitably come back to bite us anyway and we might as well confront problems while we have the advantage.

I also think that opposing totalitarianism is the greatest political calling we can have. Human dignity does not stop at the border. If the principle of non-intervention justifies the maintenance of totalitarianism then it is a bad principle.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes, we sure caused a stir by declaring war on Hitler.
It is generally called the cold war.

Also of course Hitler would not have come about if everyone hand't been so busy interfering in everyone else's affairs back in 1914 and 1919.
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On the other hand, problems not dealt with inevitably come back to bite us anyway and we might as well confront problems while we have the advantage.

I also think that opposing totalitarianism is the greatest political calling we can have. Human dignity does not stop at the border. If the principle of non-intervention justifies the maintenance of totalitarianism then it is a bad principle.
People have been saying this sort of thing for 5000 years and particularly in the last 200 and what has it got us? Bigger states, bigger wars and more authoritarianism.
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It is generally called the cold war.

Also of course Hitler would not have come about if everyone hand't been so busy interfering in everyone else's affairs back in 1914 and 1919.

People have been saying this sort of thing for 5000 years and particularly in the last 200 and what has it got us? Bigger states, bigger wars and more authoritarianism.
No, the last time it was executed properly is Nazi Germany.

Rome and Carthage also spring to mind.

What we are doing now, in Iraq, is creating and propping up an Islamic state to replace the once (for all its faults) secular and unoffensive one.
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Very simple. If there are nations that sponsor terrorism then there is a need for regime changes in such nations.

What I do regret is that it is the USA that is taking it on itself to attempt this, probably because the UN, the body that SHOULD be taking the lead in this, is now about as much use as a cracked glass eye and has been for many years.
Well we certainly need regime change in the USA then.

Bush is the Hitler of the 21st Century.
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No, the last time it was executed properly is Nazi Germany.
You mean when we left Soviet Russia in control of half of Europe and a superpower and helped China to fall to Mao?
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You mean when we left Soviet Russia in control of half of Europe and a superpower and helped China to fall to Mao?
The alternative?

That was not our obligation, it is the initiation of force that causes such things.
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The best alternative would have been not interfering in the pre world war one years and in 1919.

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It is getting involved in other people's quarrels, which is much the same thing.
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It is getting involved in other people's quarrels, which is much the same thing.
You think Versailles is to blame?
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I think if it and of the first world war had not happened then the Nazis and WWII would not of.
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