The world’s most successful Libertarian party

British-Conservatism · 26-04-2008, 10:56 AM

The Partido Movimiento Libertario ("Libertarian Movement Party") is a libertarian political party in Costa Rica.

It was founded in May 1994 and, since then, has enjoyed a number of victories. It succeeded in getting attorney Otto Guevara elected to the Legislative Assembly in its first campaign in 1998. In 2002, Guevara ran for president (unsuccessfully, 1.7% of the vote), and the party at the legislative elections won 9.3% of the popular vote and 6 out of 57 seats. A few weeks after taking office, one Congressman left the party and became independent, leaving PML with five seats. In 2006, Guevara again ran for president (unsuccessfully, 8.4% of the vote), and the party at the legislative elections won 9.1% of the popular vote and 6 out of 57 seats. The PML is an observer of the Liberal International, so therefore it is also listed as a liberal party.

[edit] 2000s developments
After the national assemblies of June 25 and August 13, 2005, there was an internal upheaval at the party. The secretary general, treasurer, and many others of a strong ideological libertarian bent have left the party, to be replaced by what Otto Guevara termed "moderates".

It has been argued by the ideological libertarians currently leaving the party—those he classified as radicals in the press—that most of the people entering the party and vying for congressmen posts are not actually libertarians at all, given that they include supporters of items such as employment quotas by sex.

On September 10, 2005, the Movimiento Libertario's assembly voted by overwhelming majority to accept government money for political campaign purposes, something that had so far been officially characterized by the party as "immoral".

In the 5 February 2006 parliamentary election, the party won 6 out of 57 seats. Its candidate at the presidential election of the same day, again Otto Guevara won 8.5 %.

As of 2007, Guevara and the party have stopped referring to themselves as Libertarians and moving towards the term liberal, in both interviews and their party site.

From Libertarianism to Liberalism then on to Socialism it is always the same.

mkpdavies · 26-04-2008, 12:09 PM

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From Libertarianism to Liberalism then on to Socialism it is always the same

What a load of ********. Libertarianism has never been given a chance, anywhere. The USA was closest, but still a mile off.

Sadly, most people are fascists, so it probably never will get a go. If it did, we wouldn't go back.

The Bear · 26-04-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

The Partido Movimiento Libertario ("Libertarian Movement Party") is a libertarian political party in Costa Rica.

It was founded in May 1994 and, since then, has enjoyed etc etc.

Just what is it about freedom that you don't like?

British-Conservatism · 26-04-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

Just what is it about freedom that you don't like?

I love Freedom unlike you who wants to ban political parties who oppose the EU.

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 26-04-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

From Libertarianism to Liberalism then on to Socialism it is always the same.

Libertarianism is incompatible with left Liberalism and Socialism.

If you want a real example of Socialism, take a close look at the BNP.

British-Conservatism · 26-04-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

Libertarianism is incompatible with left Liberalism and Socialism.

If you want a real example of Socialism, take a close look at the BNP.

Libertarianism leads to Liberalism and Socialism as it has here.
Libertarianism is against human nature.
Just look whats happened in the example I gave.

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 26-04-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

Libertarianism leads to Liberalism and Socialism as it has here.
Libertarianism is against human nature.
Just look whats happened in the example I gave.

It's impossible, libertarianism is completely incompatible. Once you start imposing non-libertarian measures, it's no longer a libertarian society.

How is libertarianism against human nature? It's all about human nature - doing what you choose to do without let or hindrance, provided it doesn't harm anyone else.

mkpdavies · 26-04-2008, 01:10 PM

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Libertarianism is against human nature.

I think that might be true, as most people seem to want fascism. As long as it's their brand.

British-Conservatism · 26-04-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I think that might be true, as most people seem to want fascism. As long as it's their brand.

Of course.
Liberty is just the vacuum in which various interest groups and ideologies fight for power.

British-Conservatism · 26-04-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

It's impossible, libertarianism is completely incompatible. Once you start imposing non-libertarian measures, it's no longer a libertarian society.

How is libertarianism against human nature? It's all about human nature - doing what you choose to do without let or hindrance, provided it doesn't harm anyone else.

Look at the example I gave the Costa Rican Libertarians started taking state funds when they originally said they would not.
Greed.
Then going along with the left on certain issues in order to maintain support.
This is why and how Libertarianism evolved into Liberalism in the first place.

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British-Conservatism Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 537	The world’s most successful Libertarian party The Partido Movimiento Libertario ("Libertarian Movement Party") is a libertarian political party in Costa Rica. It was founded in May 1994 and, since then, has enjoyed a number of victories. It succeeded in getting attorney Otto Guevara elected to the Legislative Assembly in its first campaign in 1998. In 2002, Guevara ran for president (unsuccessfully, 1.7% of the vote), and the party at the legislative elections won 9.3% of the popular vote and 6 out of 57 seats. A few weeks after taking office, one Congressman left the party and became independent, leaving PML with five seats. In 2006, Guevara again ran for president (unsuccessfully, 8.4% of the vote), and the party at the legislative elections won 9.1% of the popular vote and 6 out of 57 seats. The PML is an observer of the Liberal International, so therefore it is also listed as a liberal party. [edit] 2000s developments After the national assemblies of June 25 and August 13, 2005, there was an internal upheaval at the party. The secretary general, treasurer, and many others of a strong ideological libertarian bent have left the party, to be replaced by what Otto Guevara termed "moderates". It has been argued by the ideological libertarians currently leaving the party—those he classified as radicals in the press—that most of the people entering the party and vying for congressmen posts are not actually libertarians at all, given that they include supporters of items such as employment quotas by sex. On September 10, 2005, the Movimiento Libertario's assembly voted by overwhelming majority to accept government money for political campaign purposes, something that had so far been officially characterized by the party as "immoral". In the 5 February 2006 parliamentary election, the party won 6 out of 57 seats. Its candidate at the presidential election of the same day, again Otto Guevara won 8.5 %. As of 2007, Guevara and the party have stopped referring to themselves as Libertarians and moving towards the term liberal, in both interviews and their party site. From Libertarianism to Liberalism then on to Socialism it is always the same. __________________ http://conservativedemocraticalliance.blogspot.com/

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