A view of the EU from America

Olympic Flame · 03-05-2008, 10:41 AM

As far as I can tell there are two major disagreement between EU amnd U.S that is not going to converge easily

EU prefer a more diplomatic style of foreign affairs as opposed to America'a interventionist way. EU seem to be more pro-green and pro-union( a more humanist approach to economy) than America's concern for economic growth.

g hall · 03-05-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympic Flame

As far as I can tell there are two major disagreement between EU amnd U.S that is not going to converge easily

EU prefer a more diplomatic style of foreign affairs

Surrender you mean

BonnieDundee · 04-05-2008, 02:52 AM

Actually the EU are better than the war-mongering American neocons. We need more isolationism and less interventionism.

The Bear · 04-05-2008, 07:22 AM

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Actually the EU are better than the war-mongering American neocons. We need more isolationism and less interventionism.

I agree. But then the US sees the rest of the world as a resource.

ranter · 04-05-2008, 08:36 AM

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I agree. But then the US sees the rest of the world as a resource.

Its called the food chain bear and the US is at the top of it

BonnieDundee · 04-05-2008, 09:05 AM

Hence the waistlines.

TannyD · 06-05-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

Hence the waistlines.

Along with health problems, car obsession and high BP.

g hall · 06-05-2008, 04:17 PM

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The Bear

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

Actually the EU are better than the war-mongering American neocons. We need more isolationism and less interventionism.

I agree. But then the US sees the rest of the world as a resource.

Lets hide in our shells and hope the big bad wolf goes away

Roland · 06-05-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

Roland,I think you'll find that the Communist styled European Union is the one that is heading for trouble,not us in the UK,we are on a mission to get out,and keep our Nuclear deterrent into the bargain.

On the one hand I'd agree, on the other America would use Britain as a base so we would not be out of the firing range.

Roland · 06-05-2008, 09:11 PM

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The principle trouble from the EU is trouble for the USA.

The change in the energy markets with oil increasingly being traded in Euro’s as opposed to dollars, is another and probably the greatest cause for concern for the USA government.

For decades the US dollar has been the only currency in which oil could be traded and that has been responsible for the entirely inappropriate exchange rate of the US dollar leading to the Americans being able to enjoy a standard of living way out of line with that which the real value of their currency should justify.

The USA economy had to be bailed out from the dreadful position it was in during the early 70’s following years of screwed up financial mismanagement. This was achieved by a Faustian deal with the Saudi royal family.

This is why some times I can't understand some of your views.

You understand how the dollar is dependent on the control of oil yet you can not seem to grasp that the so called war on terror and the hatred that is being bread towards the middle east by the media is to justify Americas involvement in the middle east.

I'm no great fan of the Muslim religion but I can not bare to see the way we're being manipulated to justify killing innocent people who just want to get on with their lives.

Saddam was going to change to dealing his oil in Euro's thats why they took him out and Iran was also talking of dealling oil in euro's and surprise surprise now the war on terror is heading that way.

Stability in the middle east is the last thing the American government want.

04-05-2008, 02:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
BonnieDundee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Between Mallaig and Cornwall. Posts: 1,962	Actually the EU are better than the war-mongering American neocons. We need more isolationism and less interventionism. __________________ "It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state." -Bruce Schneier How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and pss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.* Edward Abbey Leopold Kohr.

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BonnieDundee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Between Mallaig and Cornwall. Posts: 1,962	Hence the waistlines. __________________ "It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state." -Bruce Schneier How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and pss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.* Edward Abbey Leopold Kohr.

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03-05-2008, 10:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
Olympic Flame Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 194	As far as I can tell there are two major disagreement between EU amnd U.S that is not going to converge easily EU prefer a more diplomatic style of foreign affairs as opposed to America'a interventionist way. EU seem to be more pro-green and pro-union( a more humanist approach to economy) than America's concern for economic growth.