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Old 07-05-2008, 12:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This is why some times I can't understand some of your views.

You understand how the dollar is dependent on the control of oil yet you can not seem to grasp that the so called war on terror and the hatred that is being bread towards the middle east by the media is to justify Americas involvement in the middle east.

I'm no great fan of the Muslim religion but I can not bare to see the way we're being manipulated to justify killing innocent people who just want to get on with their lives.

Saddam was going to change to dealing his oil in Euro's thats why they took him out and Iran was also talking of dealling oil in euro's and surprise surprise now the war on terror is heading that way.

Stability in the middle east is the last thing the American government want.
Could it be that they need to refresh up on their book-reading or are choosing to see/hear what they want to hear/what makes them feel the most comfortable?
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Could it be that they need to refresh up on their book-reading or are choosing to see/hear what they want to hear/what makes them feel the most comfortable?
A good start would be to stop taking Sky News, The Sun, the BBC as the gospel truth.
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The aim of the Iraq war was never to fight the war on terror, as this thread shows....

Neocons Admit that “War On Terror” Is a Hoax

Yes they wanted the oil and the "reconstruction contracts", but the plan was to install regime change and take over the middle east by splitting it up, piece by piece.

They're well on their way to stage 2.......

Don't expect it to end, ever.....
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The aim of the Iraq war was never to fight the war on terror
It's should be noted that the reason we never removed Saddam after kuwaite was because the tailiban were likely to take control of the area but the saudi's did not want that for obvious reasons.

Saddam and bin laden were enemies Saddam was not likely to help some one that sought to over throw him.
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Good point Roland.

And in fact Saddam was a CIA agent who was used and betrayed(right or wrongly) by the Americans - fact !
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Let's be real clear here who are our enemy is.

The enemy worldwide is the INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL COMMUNITY
controlled by the wealthiest families in America and Europe.

The International Bank of Settlements, World Bank, IMF, Federal Reserve System/America, 12 central banks of America, central banks in 117 countries
are owned by these weathliest families in America and Europe.

The primary owners of the Federal Reserve Bank are:
1. Rothschild's of London and Berlin
2. Lazard Brothers of Paris
3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy
4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York
5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany
6. Lehman Brothers of New York
7. Goldman, Sachs of New York
8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York
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Let's be real clear here who are our enemy is.

The enemy worldwide is the INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL COMMUNITY
controlled by the wealthiest families in America and Europe.

The International Bank of Settlements, World Bank, IMF, Federal Reserve System/America, 12 central banks of America, central banks in 117 countries
are owned by these weathliest families in America and Europe.

The primary owners of the Federal Reserve Bank are:
1. Rothschild's of London and Berlin
2. Lazard Brothers of Paris
3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy
4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York
5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany
6. Lehman Brothers of New York
7. Goldman, Sachs of New York
8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York
Sooo - where do you see the "Bretton Woods System" fitting in to all this?
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At Bretton Woods, NH, the international bankers established the dollar as the "world's
reserve", along with gold (until 1971). It moved the world's money control from London to Wall Street. The meeting created the World Bank and IMF.

When the dollar is dead, the euro will be the new "world's reserve". The "Americas"
(Canada, U.S., Mexico) will compete the "amero" against the "euro". I'm assuming
the money power will move back to Europe.
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yocanhandlethetruth said:
And in fact Saddam was a CIA agent who was used and betrayed(right or wrongly) by the Americans - fact !


I agree to all but the Americans part. This is part of a plan by international
bankers from America and Europe. We need to be real clear.
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At Bretton Woods, NH, the international bankers established the dollar as the "world's
reserve", along with gold (until 1971). It moved the world's money control from London to Wall Street. The meeting created the World Bank and IMF.

When the dollar is dead, the euro will be the new "world's reserve". The "Americas"
(Canada, U.S., Mexico) will compete the "amero" against the "euro". I'm assuming
the money power will move back to Europe.
No, it created an international structure to address the disaster left behind after WW2. It was NOT an international banking enclave, it was the allied nations getting together to try to get the world on an even keel so that people would not starve.

It was only after the US dropped out from the Gold Standard that things started to go wrong as the dollar became the effective baseline currency and the US started to print dollar bills that were not linked to anything tangible.

There is an issue, it’s not with international bankers, it’s the dishonesty of the US government over the last 30 odd years.

I do however believe that the Euro will become a very important currency in the world and that the almighty dollar will sink to its real value.

Just watch out for the squeals of anguish though when the Americans start to have to live within THEIR means and not off the backs of other people.
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