Invade Zimbabwe

British-Conservatism · 19-04-2008, 10:43 AM

Is it now time for the British to invade Zimbabwe and restore the rightful Rhodesian Front government to power.
Black rule has proved a failure.

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The Bear · 19-04-2008, 11:23 AM

Absolutely not.

We should keep our nose out for so many reasons.

Zimbabwe is a sovereign nation for one, and although Mugabwe is without doubt a deplorable creature based on what we see being reported the resolution of any problems should be left in the hands of the Zimbabwean people.

Another good reason is that Britain is a spent power and one that is desperately short of money.

There is not even the arguable justification behind invading Iraq and the arguable basis for our presence in Afghanistan to fall back on in interfering in what is or is going to take place.

Then there is what such a move would be interpreted as being by the other African nations especially those still smarting after the many years of abuse and exploitation by British colonial influence, a thing not totally bad but at the same time a thing by no means totally beneficial to the countries either.

Bets by far would be to step back from any and all involvement with Africa up to and including the provision of aid which so often is actually doing little more than subsidising and extending wars.

Another thing we should avoid, but won’t, is the reception of “asylum seekers” fleeing any conflict or hard times.

If such people were obliged to stay in the theatres of conflict or oppression there would be more motivation for them to tackle the forces oppressing them as opposed to what happens today when resistance to wrongdoing in their countries simply runs away.

rjt · 19-04-2008, 11:41 AM

N0 we should not invade there needs to be an African led soulution to this problem.

Mugabe is an evil dictator but if we are going to go arround removing dicatators all the time, wh did we never do it in Cuba, we are we trading with China and not fighting them?

British-Conservatism · 19-04-2008, 11:55 AM

The country needs to be split in three.
Matabeleland, Shonaland and a smaller restored Rhodesia for the Whites.

rjt · 19-04-2008, 11:57 AM

That sounds to me like a form of aparthied and such things are an abomination.

British-Conservatism · 19-04-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

That sounds to me like a form of aparthied and such things are an abomination.

Apartheid was a multiracial system.
This is a system of different races living in different lands as nature intended.

rjt · 19-04-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

Apartheid was a multiracial system.
This is a system of different races living in different lands as nature intended.

Nonesense, diffrent races can live together and have lived together in harmony, it is the intergration policys which help bring this about. That is why we have a problem in this country now.

Aparthied was actually the powerfull elite beating up the down trodden, I hope we never go back there.

British-Conservatism · 19-04-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

Nonesense, diffrent races can live together and have lived together in harmony, it is the intergration policys which help bring this about. That is why we have a problem in this country now.

Aparthied was actually the powerfull elite beating up the down trodden, I hope we never go back there.

Where is this mythical place then where the races live together in harmony?

rjt · 19-04-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

Where is this mythical place then where the races live together in harmony?

Until recent years this very country was one such place.

Northumbrian · 19-04-2008, 12:40 PM

Don't see why British soldiers should risk losing their lives on that place.
Sorry.

19-04-2008, 11:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
The Bear Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 1,914	Absolutely not. We should keep our nose out for so many reasons. Zimbabwe is a sovereign nation for one, and although Mugabwe is without doubt a deplorable creature based on what we see being reported the resolution of any problems should be left in the hands of the Zimbabwean people. Another good reason is that Britain is a spent power and one that is desperately short of money. There is not even the arguable justification behind invading Iraq and the arguable basis for our presence in Afghanistan to fall back on in interfering in what is or is going to take place. Then there is what such a move would be interpreted as being by the other African nations especially those still smarting after the many years of abuse and exploitation by British colonial influence, a thing not totally bad but at the same time a thing by no means totally beneficial to the countries either. Bets by far would be to step back from any and all involvement with Africa up to and including the provision of aid which so often is actually doing little more than subsidising and extending wars. Another thing we should avoid, but won’t, is the reception of “asylum seekers” fleeing any conflict or hard times. If such people were obliged to stay in the theatres of conflict or oppression there would be more motivation for them to tackle the forces oppressing them as opposed to what happens today when resistance to wrongdoing in their countries simply runs away. __________________ I am an old man. I have eaten much salt.

19-04-2008, 11:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,174	N0 we should not invade there needs to be an African led soulution to this problem. Mugabe is an evil dictator but if we are going to go arround removing dicatators all the time, wh did we never do it in Cuba, we are we trading with China and not fighting them? __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

19-04-2008, 11:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
British-Conservatism Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,084	The country needs to be split in three. Matabeleland, Shonaland and a smaller restored Rhodesia for the Whites. __________________ http://conservativedemocraticalliance.blogspot.com/

19-04-2008, 11:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,174	That sounds to me like a form of aparthied and such things are an abomination. __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

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19-04-2008, 12:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 852	Don't see why British soldiers should risk losing their lives on that place. Sorry.