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470 execution for a population of 1.3 billion of a developing country is not something I might scream at.
Given the fact that Iran having a population of 70 million, 5.3 percent of China' population with 300 over executions, it is strange that the "gold medal" is given to China by BBC on the basis of "the number of executions".

I remember that London's crime rate is seven times that of NYC for year 2007when alot British are still having the impression that UK is safe place as compared to U.S where violent crimes are common.

Regarding the emotional antagonizing question what if you or you friend is a victims of a wrong execution, statistics shows that it is thousands times more likely for you or your friend as a victim of murder, death due to violent crimes than a victim of a wrong execution in a developed country with years of sitting in the death parole to wait for evidence in the contrary.

The Bear

Legally ending the life of a person who has committed an act of gross inhumanity, or even when in the case of terrorism only having been interrupted in his plan to commit such an act ha prevented him from achieving his goal isn’t murder, it’s justice.

As for juries being reluctant to find guilt if the death penalty would be imposed can be got around by allowing the jury to clear the death penalty or not for the person they found guilty.

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Olympic Flame

What if, the abolition of the death penalty, is one of the factors contributing to the failure of the system?

Another way might be the empowerment of the Police force through law amendment. A lot former British Colonies, suhc as Hong Kong and Singapore are doing much better than UK.

tito

I would concede this, provided we have uniform and all-seeing CCTV coverage of prisons and there can be no doubt over an execution sentence.

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g hall

On that basis then the Nazi's genocide of the Jewish population could be viewed as legal and justified

Having sat on a jury I have grave misgivings about that idea I've senn the sheeple in action my friend

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rjt

I quite agree, it is a wicked and vile regime.

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Hartlepool

tito said,"I would concede this,"...........

So you do believe in state murder tito if you believe what you have just said in your post #24 above.

Also, your signature that represents your thinking says about a man...."THAT SOCIETY MAY DISPOSE OF HIM IN ANY WAY IT PLEASES FOR THE SAKE OF WHATEVER IT DEEMS TO BE ITS OWN TRIBAL,COLLECTIVE GOOD."

Isn't that exactly what happens when someone is sentenced to death by his fellow man?

Hartlepool

To remove the jury from inflicting the death penalty on someone after them finding said person guilty they should give a multiple penalty sentence,like,Death penalty,or,12 months community service or a £100 fine,then,let the judge decide which one the culprit gets for his act of mayhem.

Britannist

There are still cases around the world of the innocent being murdered by the state (executed).

The state is not God and it has no right to kill except in the defence of the nation (i.e. war).

Britannist

Exactly. And it is a regime backed by the EU which has signed agreements with the communist dictatorship of China.