The Bear

If any western backed force whacked Mugabe the west would be accused of being anti African and pro colonist by others in Africa, and they would use it as propaganda to further their own ends.

If any African nation were to speak out about Mugabe that government would be accused of being pro west pro colonist by various opposition groups within that nation and any other nation that supported the condemnation and the probability is that all hell would break loose.

The guy has the world by the short and curlies and he knows it.

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BonnieDundee

We shouldn't be invading other countries like that anyway. It is not a good idea. It is wrong, we should perhaps sanction him but such "spreading democracy" is not a good move.

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The Bear

We should stop sending "aid" hand outs to them for starters.

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rjt

Certainly we should do that, all overseas aid should be linked to proper democratic political and social reform.

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rjt

I think what is needed is a unified African voice against him, that could make a diffrence, I note today that members of the ANC have been critical of him in contrast to Mbekis disgracefull comments at the weekend. This is important but on its own not crucial enough to be a tipping point.

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Hartlepool

They won't do anything at all,they are like me and a lot of others,waiting for him to die.

The Africa countrys all have corruption built into them from birth,thats how they all got to where they are and thats why some of them are put in charge of things like the UN,they can be controlled by money,just like most politicians are.

Blair,Berlusconi,Brown,Prodi,Schroeder,Chirac,Kohl and the rest of them.

Britannist

Yes - we should only send aid money to Zimbabwe if there is an absolute guarantee that every penny of it reaches the intended recipients.

One of the many problems of being in the EU is that a third of our aid money has to be paid to the EU for the EU to distribute. Consequently we get no real say on how that money is spent and which countries receive it.

Phil Sheldon

If the international community spent as much time and effort driving Mugabe out as they did when Ian Smith was running that country then perhaps we could accept that African/EU politicians are more forceful than a cat's fart.
It is beyond belief that the boy Milliband can do no more than mumble about the worsening crisis in Zimbabwe and the Celtic Clown-looking for another opportunity to bolster his tarnished image-magics up millions of £'s in promised aid.

EU leaders like to pretend that Project Europe is a force to be reckoned with, current evidence shows that the much vaunted EU Foriegn Affairs spokesman is as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Mugabe and Zimbabwe's financial chaos are a blot on not only Africa but also on the industrialised nations who wring their hands in mock anguish.

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tito

Absolutely, though it is certain to cause war.

Dictators do not let go of power, and like the parasites they are, can only survive through leeching. This can be in the form of war, fraud or charity. Mugabe has done fraud (inflation) to death, and if we cut charity then he will turn to force.

At which point, a well delivered bullet from the nearest free country wouldn't go amiss.

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The Bear

We can't afford to give ANY "aid" as we are using borrowed money to do so.

(BTW .. From Phil Sheldon "more forceful than a cat's fart". Love it!)

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