Princep

I'll try and clear this up for you. People can't just protest anywhere. You need to have a permit and you need to stick to the route and not violate any laws or incite a riot during the act. People can't just go around stopping traffic and harassing normal citizens because they are outraged. These people were not legal protesters, they were disrupting a city and ruining people's days. They were breaking the law. Once you have broken the law you have broken the law and that is it. You must obey the police to an extent, which means if they tell you to stop and shutup you must, but if they say, "I am going to rape you," then you don't have to obey.

I am no friend to the cops and I agree with you that a lot, but not all, are undereducated and power hungry but that doesn't make them evil. Police have a highly stressful work environment where they have to make split decisions that could cost them their lives or other peoples. A lot of the problems that arise today are from the lack of respect people have for the law. People think that they can do whatever they want without any repercussions. Guess what, you can't. Just because you think the law is unjust doesn't mean you can disobey it. People need to work within the law for change and they need to stop believing the world revolves around them.

Please look at my response below for another example of a person caught on video out of touch with reality.

Princep

Note: I replied to the video on that page not the article, got a little crossed up. Will reply to girl article asap.

Is that your website? Tin foil hat material right there.

Ok, ok, I am going to ignore the website and focus on the video which is pretty simple to understand. Wait, just so you understand anyone who titles a video "Cop tasers man in front of pregnant wife for speeding ticket," is only trying to make you emotional about the situation and thus lose logic to the wind. It doesn't matter if he was tasered in front of his pregnant wife, it doesn't matter if he was tasered in front of a school bus and eight nuns, it doesn't matter who was watching, the law doesn't determine the punishment based on emotional responses.

Anyways, this is very simple, the man was pulled over for speeding. It doesn't matter if there was a 40mph sign as all those issues are resolved in traffic court where the defendant can make any case he wants. The man in the vehicle refused to sign the speeding ticket which means he automatically gets arrested, that is the law. To avoid being arrested all he had to do was sign the ticket, signing the ticket does not admit guilt, all it does is prove you received the ticket.

So, the man was going to be arrested but he refused to comply with the officers instructions which were to, "put your hands behind your back." By refusing to cooperate while being arrested he had violated another law, obstruction of justice. The man started moving back and forth and was mad, which didn't make the officer comfortable, as he said in the end, so he tasered him.

Now, I do believe he was quick on the taser, but he was completely within his right and the situation called for it. The whole situation could have been avoided if the man would have signed the ticket like a normal person, but he didn't he lost his cool.

Anyone who tries to pull on your emotions in order to get you to agree with them is usually trying to sell you some bull****.

I don't know why you are so vehemently against the police, you must have been arrested one too many times before, but they are not perfect. Your attempt to fan the flames on a small fire will not be successfully. There are proportionally very few instances of police corruption or wrong doing. The USA has 300 million people, citing 8 people means absolutely nothing. More people die on the toilet than by cops. Statistics are fun aren't they, maybe I should make a huge campaign against the evil toilets and their attempt to conquer the world by killing us on the pot.

Princep

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I have no idea what you mean by this, are you saying that because you don't understand the law of the USA that they are evil? Having lived in the USA for 4 years I can tell you that the USA and UK are almost mirror images of each other. Remember that I put the almost in there, the USA is newer, bigger, and has hundreds of millions of more people so a comparison isn't really that accurate. However, many of the problems we are having in the UK currently are the same problems the US is having. Hating your reflection because it has a hat on is not very smart.

I don't think you really understand how the USA works, it is incredibly easy to tell that you have been reading too many headlines and not enough content. Sadly, I don't think you will ever change your mind because you seem to be enjoying your hate, misplaced as it is.

Oh yeah, something about a pot and kettle as well.

youcanhandlethetruth

You're the one which it's "backfired" Olymipic flame.

You really expect people to fall for the old propaganda trick that it is the Chinese who are the victims ?
And the peaceful Tibetan people (including Buddhists !) are the aggressors ?

Not only are the Chinese the oppressors but they are instigating the trouble

Epoch Times | Sources at British Spy Agency Confirm Tibetan Claims of Staged Violence
GCHQ Confirms Violent Riots Staged By Chinese
Everything you would expect a tyrannical regime that killed 77,000,000 of it's own people.

So obviously this has backfired on you Olympic Flame - your argument that:

a) the rioters are the Tibetans

is a total lie, and

b) your quote "sent the rioters a wrong message in the recent event...... even in the use of violence against the law and civil order"

is stupidity itself.

"the law and civil order" are not the Tibetan police force, no not that kind of law and order, but China !
Illegally claiming Tibet's sovereign right to independence by brute force.

And the riots are instigated by the Chinese too !

I would laugh but I don't think people like you are funny.

It's very basic war propaganda you're spouting - tell a lie big enough people will believe it. (Who said that ? )

You are accusing Tibet who are fighting for independence from China that they are picking a fight with China in Tibet.
How stupid do you take people for ?

Obviously America are supporting China who are instigating a war with Tibet.

People don't believe your lies anymore Olympic Flame but please please carry on with your futile propaganda.

Are you part of the international banker class Olymic Flame ?
Do you think they give a sh*t about you ?
Or could the people you actually worship hold you in absolute no importance whatsoever ...

You think they're on YOUR side ? Ha ha Dream on...........

Are you trying to train people to be slaves ?
I'm just glad that I'm me and not someone like you- if I was you I would have to be very unhappy about something to act like you enjoy slavery.

I know you already like being one, but we're not all feeble and weakminded as yourself.

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youcanhandlethetruth

No offence but I wouldn't trust you to clear up my own vomit Princep.

You live in a fantasy land where police are good, law abiding citizens and the picture you paint is so far removed from the video and reality in general.

As I showed, American police are notoriously corrupt, violent and are there to impose a tyrannical rule of law that suits only one group of internationalists.

Permit to protest ? The law is making free speech a crime !
Your argument is stupid - supposedly work within the law and if the law doesn't allow it then it's tough ! I won't even mention Ghandi to you..........

And no one was holding up traffic, harassing people or inciting riots - stop lying !

"Police have a highly stressful work environment where they have to make split decisions that could cost them their lives"

Do that include police picking up a batons and running yards to beat innocent bystanders ?
You're standing up for police brutality - they could have arrested them if they'd wanted to, but even when they do, they're mostly framing the innocent.

"A lot of the problems that arise today are from the lack of respect people have for the law."

Rubbish - the law is out for it's own selfish means of profiteering and slavery. More laws are invented to criminalize more people.

"Just because you think the law is unjust doesn't mean you can disobey it."

But hold on you said
"if they say, "I am going to rape you," then you don't have to obey."

So what if rape was within the law ?

Obviously my point is clear.

Ever heard of the poll tax riot ?

You're so stupid !

You seem to talk "reasonably" but you are quick to point the finger of suspicion at the Tibetans to "incite a riot" and harassing "harassing normal citizens".

As you can see I've already proved in my previous post that it was the Chinese starting the riots so that leaves you absolutely stranded !

I won't even waste my time watching your video - you've already proved yourself to be totally innacurate and mindless.

Enjoy your slavery, Mr "Elite"

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Rebirth

The more laws that are made to push the people down, the more reason the people have to protest.

Rebirth

Oh and the police are acting like barbaric animals, but that's nothing new in the US. Won't be long until it's like that here and am sure Princep will be defending the police's right to beat people.

youcanhandlethetruth

You're totally right Rebirth - very good points.

But just look at the US and torture memos that came from the whitehouse saying they can use pliers on young children.

All to keep us safe of course......

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BonnieDundee

No you don't, only if you are breaking the law. If a police officer randomly came up to you and told you to jump into the oncoming traffic, would you do it?

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Leopold Kohr.

BonnieDundee

The media is controlled by the state. One of the worst states in history. It has killed more than Stalin or Hitler.

There seems to be little support in Tibet for the Chinese gov't, not counting Chinese the gov't has brought there.

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"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.