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Old 15-03-2008, 12:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Ultimatum to the Iraqui people.

The Americans need to give the Iraqi's an ultimatum now about their behaviour because enough is enough and this is how i think it should go.

If you don't start behaving as if you want a stable decent society safe for people to live in then we are going to pull out, your time is up. What will then happen is a civil war no doubt in which you the Iraqi people will tear each other apart because that is what you seem to want to do and it will be your fault.
You have had years now to face up to the situation and find in your self the right priorities, which is your future, not the past but your future in which you have the chance to build a good society much better than before which is kinder and more caring and more equal and more supporting than what was before, but the question is ''what do you want''.

You have the backing and the money and the lives at risk of Americans British and others, to take the chance to build a better society.
There is no evil in preventing murder and torture and indiscriminate killing.
This has been your chance to take a new direction for the future for you the Iraqi people, not for anyone else, it is your chance for you and your future and what have you done with it.

You have squandered it in backstabbing, corruption, stealing, murder, tyrannical warlordship, doubledealing, killing and torturing your brothers and sisters in the night and leaving their bodies in the street. Kidnap and extortion and every foul uncaring behaviour. This is how you have behaved in the chance you have been given by the lives expended and the money and the good intentions of others.

The world can see that the Iraqi people seem to have no good intention about their own people but wish to condone their own behaviour for ever in doing their worst to their own people as long as they can and this is all someone elses fault.

The world can see that the Iraqi people are brutal and uncaring corrupt and utterly judgemental of their own brothers and sisters and have no interest in giving them Law and order, peace, equality, safety and facilities in which to live in.

No longer will others put themselves under the threat of your corrupt and uncaring ways your time is almost up.
prove now that you really want a good civil society to live in where everyone may have the chance to live in peace and security and you will have the help of America and Britain and other countries to do that for your selves, which no one can take away from you and then you may have the help you need.

Or do what everyone expects and continue to betray and murder and torture and kidnap and extort and have the luxury of saying it's not my fault, and have your orgy of civil killings which you seem to want and thats your decision because thats your choice now you have had all the time you are going to get.
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Screw the ultimatums - we should have been out already.

Time to stop the murder and the bloodshed.
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The vast majority of the problems in Iraq at present are caused by insurgents, most of whom are Saudies or Yemenies, very few of them being Iraqies.
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Such an ultimatum to Iraq would certainly help the insurgents take control of the country much quicker than they are at the moment.

These insurgents are $10 a day mercenaries and there is a waiting list to join up,funds from Saudi are plentiful and neverending,never forget what the goal of Islam is.
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There IS no single “Iraqi people”.

There are at least three different nations vying for the same turf.. What is now needed is to let the have a civil war to sort their own mess out and then deal with whatever emerges.
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There IS no single “Iraqi people”.

There are at least three different nations vying for the same turf.. What is now needed is to let the have a civil war to sort their own mess out and then deal with whatever emerges.
....or supply them a Nuke with about a 300 meter range. Infact, by nuking the whole of the Middle East and Pakistan would probably solve most of the worlds problems without all the petty PC talk having to be endured during boring repeatative 'sound bite' statements from the UN.

Before some one from the Liberal camps says, "Awww, Aww, you can't do that, it'll kill innocent people" Tough its war, get over it. These so called innocent people support the extremists, these so called innocent people hate the west. Live by the sword, die by it! Get our boys and girls out of these hell holes and Nuke em! You can't win wars with petty small talk, especially when you are dealing with lawless extremists. They are already winning the war. Their invasion is on your doorstep!
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There IS no single “Iraqi people”.

There are at least three different nations vying for the same turf.. What is now needed is to let the have a civil war to sort their own mess out and then deal with whatever emerges.

A statement to the people of Iraq that on a certain date Iraq will become three different countries and that the movement to or from areas must be completed within twelve months.

Passports would then be issued for each country and used for future visits within those three countries or,anywhere else.

Just like the rest of the worlds peoples do.

The same should apply to the UK if the Nationalists or the EU break it up.
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The only problem is that a large number of Iraqis want a hardline fundamentalist islamic government and the US cannot pull out until there is no possibility of this. Rock/hard place.
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The only problem is that a large number of Iraqis want a hardline fundamentalist islamic government and the US cannot pull out until there is no possibility of this. Rock/hard place.
Then they are wasting their time and our money and peoples lives. I despair at how our politicians simply don’t won’t or can’t grasp that there are millions of people who see our way of life as not only immoral but also blasphemous
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George, "...a large number of Iraqis want a hardline FIG....."

How many of the Iraqis make up this hardline FIG George?

Who carried out the poll on the Iraqi population,and when was it done?

Did the poll tell them to indicate that they were or were not hardliners?

Isn't the Iraqi population made up of mainly Shiite,Sunnie and Kurdish Muslims from original and ancient Tribal areas of Iraq to which they could withdraw to,in peace.

They would then be without the war being extended because of foreign $10 a day insurgents from all over the world,but,especially from Pakistan?
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