youcanhandlethetruth

Conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory..........

Talk about a scratched record.

Rather than pre-judge something you haven't even looked at, you need to wake up and examine the facts, but you won't because subconsciously you're too proud to admit you've been conned.

Your choice - don't complain when you've lost your civil liberties though, but no doubt you'll still be blaming Al-CIA-da.

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PCMadness

That's side B .... you're on side A ...... inside job....inside job.....inside job

I take your point, but your totally miss mine. I am not talking about any terrorist action that has occurred in the last 10 years. I am talking about a 1400 year old fundamentalist ideology that has made a resurgence in the last 50 years.

I am far from conned. If any of the truther claims have been proved as fact there would be bodies of the enablers of such atrocities swinging from gallows as we speak. They haven't been proved, they might, but they haven't yet. If it turns out you are right then I'll happily concede but until then.......

As for civil liberties, as I said many organisations and groups are jumping on various bandwagons for their own ends. You chose the truther movement, the governments chose anti-terror.

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youcanhandlethetruth

"If any of the truther claims have been proved as fact there would be bodies of the enablers of such atrocities swinging from gallows as we speak."

I don't know how you figure that one - if any justice system/department serves government interests they are hardly likely to prosecute the government they ultimately serve - it's like saying you can trust a criminal with upholding the law.
If you think the media are totally impartial and not government controlled, think again.

And for anything that can be proved(which it has by the way), then it can similarly be ignored by the mainstream media - I think you've a glorified picture of justice in the Western World.

Just as a last word consider part of this BBC documentary(which personally I am suprised they even allowed to be showed) which admits about the war on terror:

"much of this threat is a fantasy which has been exagerrated and distorted by politicians"

"a dark illusion that has spread unquestioned by governments around the world, security services and the international media."

[Actually the BBC are clever not to admit it was precisely governments, security services and the international media who are in direct control but there you go.....]


I accept your view on Islamic fundamentalism if you wish to pursue it and admit there may be some truth in it and I may look into it, but there are much much greater threats, staring us all right in the face.

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youcanhandlethetruth

By the way your last comment:

"As for civil liberties, as I said many organisations and groups are jumping on various bandwagons for their own ends. You chose the truther movement"

It's not at all about being part of an organization for any personal gain and I'm not part of any "movement".
It's ultimately about protecting yourself against oppression and tyranny in the interest of liberty and personal survival, as you may find out in the fullness of time.
Though believe me I really hope you won't have to - why do you think I'm trying to convince you what I've learnt ?

To be fair, maybe from your point of view, you are trying to do the same....

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The Bear

The BBC is so far up the a*se of the body Islamic in Britain that I wouldn't believe a single thing they broadcast on the subject, especially not when it detracts from what most of us who do have to venture into the Muslim quarters of many of our cities see and experience whenever we do.

Muslim "quarters" If only it WAS just a quarter, in the Midlands especially.

youcanhandlethetruth

I normally wouldn't trust the BBC as far as I could throw them either but this is a generally accurate documentary and seems to be the exception.

What have you seen and experienced in the Muslim community ?

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Ea of Dune

I was referring to the person in question who did the chopping. He obviously believes it's acceptable to settle disputes by doing such a vile thing.

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The Bear

In Britain.

Taxi drivers charging one rate for Muslims and another for non Muslims (I was told not to pay by the person that I was with, a non-Muslim Indian who is often taken by them as a fellow Muslim as he speaks Urdu).

Shops doing the same.

Verbal abuse for simply walking down the street in broad daylight (Bradford).

Listening to hate speech at an outdoor sermon (Finsbury).

Being refused to be served in a shop (Leicester).

Watching Muslim yobs harangue and cat call at obviously non Muslim girls (Bradford).

That’s just some of what I have seen and experienced first hand from these people from a different society from my own who now are invading my country like the Europeans invaded North America.

youcanhandlethetruth

Fair enough - very sorry to hear that.

I don't condone any bad behaviour at all but you could argue that there a lot of British people who perform the same sort of behaviour on Muslims too.

You'll always get bad people and nutters in any faith/religion/background - doesn't mean they're all like that, but I take your point.

How ironic it was the British who were responsible for the invasion of North America too !

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PCMadness

Except it is more than a few and is condoned by many extremist followers of Islam in Britain. Their kids are being brought up to act this way. Mark my words. They have their tails up at the moment and they think that they are untouchable. The number of racist and faith related attacks against non muslims will gradually increase over the coming months and years. Last week reports of a vicar being beaten by 'asian' youths and ethnic cleansing in the muslim enclaves in Luton.

bashed

Death threats

Stonings

Are Muslim enclaves no-go areas, forcing other people out, asks historian John Cornwell -Times Online

Bricks thrown

We're not far off churches burning and charred cars on the streets 'a la Paris and their muslim ghettos. Soon we will see the same across the rest of our multicultural wonderland. We are heading for balkan style unrest.

I don't want to be proved right, but if we don't do something now in a few years time I will be. If I'm not I'll go off and dribble in the corner somewhere.

This is how it starts. Where it ends is up to us

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