The American Bill of Rights in the UK?

steve fowler · 18-02-2008, 10:33 PM

I have a reprint copy of the Magna Carta right here with me so it means something to ME!.

Westcountryman · 18-02-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland

In short no one can get rid of the magna carter the bill of rights etc.. but what they can do is forget to mention it through the education system if future generations do not realize it exists or future police man or courts or juries do not realize it's power or believe in it then what good is it.

I think you'll find that Parliament is Sovereign, and has either enacted laws that supersede the Magna Carta or has repealed the provisions in the Magna Carta.

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By the late 19th century, most clauses in their original form had been repealed from English law.

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The major breakthrough occurred in 1828 with the passing of the first Offences Against the Person Act, which for the first time repealed a clause of Magna Carta, namely Clause 36. With the myth broken, in one hundred and fifty years nearly the whole charter was repealed.

Magna Carta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Roland · 18-02-2008, 10:46 PM

You could be right about that.

BenjaminFranklin · 19-02-2008, 12:50 AM

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BenjaminFranklin

Be warned our constitution is being ripped up and so is yours.

I hear you there. You would think that, when something is written down as a constitution--as a FUNDAMENTAL law--that it would be safe.

But some people STILL find any excuse to ignore the law as written. (Including some judges who you would think would know better.)

...I would start giving examples on this but then I'd be here all day... There are just too many damn people who don't respect the constitution.

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...if future generations do not realize it exists or future police man or courts or juries do not realize it's power or believe in it then what good is it.

I agree with you there. The true law of the land... the "de facto" law of the land... is not the law as written, but the law as enforced.

If you think about it... the ones who enforce the laws (the police, the courts, and so forth), are the ones who REALLY control the law of the land. And some of them treat the written laws as just a suggestion.

TannyD · 19-02-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by g hall

And the present government has been passing laws like nobody's business so the sad truth is the law abiding majority are allowed to do f*ck all while the criminals do what they like

Slowly the law squeezes tighter and tighter around the law-abiding until the become the criminals and then the Government and law enforcement can lock then all up and have a good laugh...

Roland · 19-02-2008, 03:48 PM

Benjamin

We seem as yet not to have to much difficulty as far as the legal profession and court system but i've noticed a few cases though where courts or the house of lords due to having two laws to deal with as in EU law and British law are now becoming confused as to which one to follow.

18-02-2008, 10:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 1,201 Party: UKIP	I have a reprint copy of the Magna Carta right here with me so it means something to ME!. __________________ RULE BRITANNIA BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES, BRITONS NEVER EVER SHALL BE SLAVE'S. Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. Winston Churchill. When Labour won the 1997 General Election, Enoch Powell told his wife that the electorate had voted to break up the United Kingdom.

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18-02-2008, 10:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 857	You could be right about that.

19-02-2008, 03:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 857	Benjamin We seem as yet not to have to much difficulty as far as the legal profession and court system but i've noticed a few cases though where courts or the house of lords due to having two laws to deal with as in EU law and British law are now becoming confused as to which one to follow.