Former Australian Prime Minister ..

Hunter · 17-02-2008, 05:27 PM

Former Australian Prime Minister John Howard made this speech. Wouldn't it be good to have a politician in Parliament with the guts to make one like it...

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Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'.

'We speak mainly ENGLISH; not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society. Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other g reat Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

Notice something familiar about the content of the speech?

steve fowler · 17-02-2008, 05:56 PM

We need our own John Howard over in the UK and he is right if you want live and work in our country then you live by OUR rules but not gonna while we have backstabbers running our country.

Hartlepool · 17-02-2008, 06:10 PM

Hunter,this is very old.

It has been used for a few years now,adapted to fit peoples of all kinds and creeds.

It's racialist dreamer rubbish.

The mods should remove it,asap if possible.

Hunter · 17-02-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

Hunter,this is very old.

It has been used for a few years now,adapted to fit peoples of all kinds and creeds.

It's racialist dreamer rubbish.

The mods should remove it,asap if possible.

I have no idea how old it is. Perhaps you'd be good enough to tell me. The point I make from it is that other countries seem to be having a set too with various ethnic minorities demanding they be catered to. In Australia it got to the point where their (then) Prime Minister decided to put a stop to it.

It is not racist, by any standard, to want to keep ones own way of life and standards in ones own country.

If a group of people are invited to come into this country, then I can see the reasoning to 'look after' them. Plain good manners. But for people who invite themselves here, it is just bad manners on their part to demand changes to suit them, no matter who they are.

I don't know what you do for a living Hartlepool, but whatever it is, I doubt very much if the company you work for allows clients to tell it how to run its business, arrange the decor and furniture, when to work and when not to. Any company that does so will soon be down the pan.

In what way is it "racialist"? And why do you think the moderators should remove it?

david H · 17-02-2008, 07:38 PM

Hartlepool are you an authoritarian troll trying have people's posts renewed?, Or just trying to cause trouble for other posters? Which is it?

Aardvark · 18-02-2008, 07:43 AM

The thread adds nothing new. I can't even remember the first time I received the 'speech', or a variant of it, via e-mail. It is no longer current.

Howard lost the last election and the new PM has apologised to the aboriginal peoples of Australia. Australia may be Howard's own country, but it was someone else's beforehand. The invading white people did not respect the culture of the natives, nor did they learn the language or conform to the religious practices. I don't think I would have either, but we have to be careful how we address these issues.

Hunter · 19-02-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

The thread adds nothing new. I can't even remember the first time I received the 'speech', or a variant of it, via e-mail. It is no longer current.

Howard lost the last election and the new PM has apologised to the aboriginal peoples of Australia. Australia may be Howard's own country, but it was someone else's beforehand. The invading white people did not respect the culture of the natives, nor did they learn the language or conform to the religious practices. I don't think I would have either, but we have to be careful how we address these issues.

Absolutely agree. As a Nationalist I can appreciate the harm that has been done to other cultures through arrogance and ignorance. The British Empire was responsible for a great many atrocities, not least of which was the displacement of indigenous populations. But we should be able to learn the lessons from history, and be able to take steps to avoid such incidents again, either to other nations, or recognise when it is happening to us.

We cannot and should not be held accountable for what our ancestors did or did not do. We are responsible for our actions, not theirs. If we do wrong, then we should be prepared to accept responsibility for those actions, not hide away and pretend otherwise.

The reason I started this thread was to point out that Britain is not the only country that is having problems with immigration, and we should be wary of any more of our rights being superceded by this Government in order to appease an ethnic minority that came to this country uninvited.

Hartlepool · 19-02-2008, 08:39 AM

Like I said its very old and comes back here once or twice a year with little twitches added to suit the cause of someone else.

Hunter · 19-02-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

Like I said its very old and comes back here once or twice a year with little twitches added to suit the cause of someone else.

Fair enough....

Hartlepool · 19-02-2008, 09:33 AM

Your welcome,nothing meant by my original post to demean the article.

I wish it was brand new and had just been posted by someone in the EU/UK.

17-02-2008, 05:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 1,201 Party: UKIP	We need our own John Howard over in the UK and he is right if you want live and work in our country then you live by OUR rules but not gonna while we have backstabbers running our country. __________________ RULE BRITANNIA BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES, BRITONS NEVER EVER SHALL BE SLAVE'S. Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. Winston Churchill. When Labour won the 1997 General Election, Enoch Powell told his wife that the electorate had voted to break up the United Kingdom.

17-02-2008, 07:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,403	Hartlepool are you an authoritarian troll trying have people's posts renewed?, Or just trying to cause trouble for other posters? Which is it? __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

18-02-2008, 07:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,734	The thread adds nothing new. I can't even remember the first time I received the 'speech', or a variant of it, via e-mail. It is no longer current. Howard lost the last election and the new PM has apologised to the aboriginal peoples of Australia. Australia may be Howard's own country, but it was someone else's beforehand. The invading white people did not respect the culture of the natives, nor did they learn the language or conform to the religious practices. I don't think I would have either, but we have to be careful how we address these issues. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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17-02-2008, 06:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	Hunter,this is very old. It has been used for a few years now,adapted to fit peoples of all kinds and creeds. It's racialist dreamer rubbish. The mods should remove it,asap if possible.

19-02-2008, 08:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	Like I said its very old and comes back here once or twice a year with little twitches added to suit the cause of someone else.

19-02-2008, 09:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	Your welcome,nothing meant by my original post to demean the article. I wish it was brand new and had just been posted by someone in the EU/UK.