“Fuel and Planes Alone Did NOT Bring the Tower

The Bear · 04-03-2008, 06:56 AM

OK, I hold my hands up – you suckered me in good!

I THOUGHT that you were simply “having a laugh” at worst by quoting from the stupid conspiracy web sites and didn’t for a single moment think that you actually believed the rubbish they present!

Because it is rubbish on those sites.

Dangerous rubbish that comes from the mad, bad, and sad or permutations of all three.

It was only after I had my attention drawn to the “complaint” that you had raised that I realised that in addition to failing to grasp that simple fact that at times you plainly don’t understand what it is that you are reading, or can sift fact from contrived fiction.

Never mind, most people can.

Tell me, what’s your “take” on some other “hidden issues” such as “Chem-Trails” or “mind manipulation by the surreptitious use of microwave or some other form of radiation devices”?

Is there something in it?

And how about the forthcoming problem of the tunnels being dug by Chinese military beneath the Pacific to facilitate invasion of the US? It’s all there on the webb!

Here’s one that I am concerned about.

First brought to my attention by my son.

The infiltration of UK brewing houses by immigrants from The Sub-Continent who have for some time been introducing a secret and tasteless rare herb into our booze that causes an insatiable desire for a curry or at least a kebab after a night “on the lash”!

The truth about 9/11 is that Muslim Terrorists attacked the US. To propose otherwise is wrong and an insult to the victims, their families, the whole of the United States government let alone the population of the Free World.

End of story.

Westcountryman · 04-03-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

The truth about 9/11 is that Muslim Terrorists attacked the US. To propose otherwise is wrong and an insult to the victims, their families, the whole of the United States government let alone the population of the Free World.

Hear hear!

kernow · 04-03-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bear

The truth about 9/11 is that Muslim Terrorists attacked the US. To propose otherwise is wrong and an insult to the victims, their families, the whole of the United States government let alone the population of the Free World.

End of story.

Absolutely Spot on!

youcanhandlethetruth · 04-03-2008, 01:23 PM

Absolute rubbish more like....

If you think that a bunch of arabs with box cutters managed to penetrate the most heavily fortified air defence space in the world without any resistance you must be more than one marble short.

In fact basically what you're saying is that pilotsfor911truth are teeling porkies and rubbish. They are experts (unlike yourself).

As for your quote "To propose otherwise is wrong and an insult to the victims, their families, the whole of the United States government let alone the population of the Free World."

Then why do the victims families want a new investigation ?

As for the U.S government how many countries have they attacked since world war II ?

And free world ? Go back to sleep......

PCMadness · 04-03-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

As for Islamism, are you against it because of immigration or something else ?

As far as islamism, I am against the whole death worshipping ideology. It was spread by the sword and lives by the sword.

See my other thread to see what a family duspute can result in.

Enough of these death worshippers

And we have strategies of muslim apologists like HighlandFP trying to divert attention away from such acts by using semantics and wildly incomparable references to try to bring other religions and cultures down to the level of Islam when confronted with the spectacle of Islamic and Arab violence.

jgrabham · 04-03-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

The truth about 9/11 is that Muslim Terrorists attacked the US. To propose otherwise is wrong and an insult to the victims, their families, the whole of the United States government let alone the population of the Free World.

End of story.

Yes, but I think there was some MAJOR balls up that let them in... THATS what the US government tried to cover up.

Although that video of WTC7 with the news reporter in front of it, telling how it was already blown up is a bit iffy, but I reckon theres a 15 minute delay on the screens in the studio or something.

Oh, and it was definitely milked for all it was worth by Bush and Cheney for a good ol fashioned oil-run in Iraq.

But yes, IT WAS ****** OFF MUSLIMS, NOT THE CIA, FBI, OR ABC123hlhflds

HighlandFP · 04-03-2008, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bear

The truth about 9/11 is that Muslim Terrorists attacked the US. To propose otherwise is wrong and an insult to the victims, their families, the whole of the United States government let alone the population of the Free World.

You had better tell that to these people.

120+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
330+ Engineers and Architects
80+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
210+ Professors Question 9/11
200+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
130+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

youcanhandlethetruth · 05-03-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jgrabham

Yes, but I think there was some MAJOR balls up that let them in... THATS what the US government tried to cover up.

Although that video of WTC7 with the news reporter in front of it, telling how it was already blown up is a bit iffy, but I reckon theres a 15 minute delay on the screens in the studio or something.

Oh, and it was definitely milked for all it was worth by Bush and Cheney for a good ol fashioned oil-run in Iraq.

But yes, IT WAS ****** OFF MUSLIMS, NOT THE CIA, FBI, OR ABC123hlhflds

The truth is that the US military is infinitely more technologically advanced than how your comment potrays it to be.
"balls up" is not in the language of the US military. There are security clearances, protocols, backup plans, control hierachies - they couldn't (for example) put a man on the moon if they weren't extremely intelligent people and had their technological advances planned to the finest and most minute detail.
You can't say someone cocked up because it would not depend on the failure of just one person - it would have to be a multitude of serious errors.

Your comment "milked for all it was worth".....
Have you read what was the neo cons thinktank said in Project For American Century - Rebuilding America's defences in 2000 ?
How they said they needed "another pearl harbour" in order to achieve world domination ?
Do you realise it's been de-classified in US documents that the Gulf of tonkin incident was staged as a pretext to starting the Vietnam war ?
Do you realise declassified LBJ presidential tapes discussed how to spin the non-event to escalate it as justification for air strikes and the NSA faked intelligence data to make it appear as if two US ships had been lost ?

Maybe you think I'm making it up or it's just another "conspiracy theory"..... ?

youcanhandlethetruth · 05-03-2008, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlandFP

You had better tell that to these people.

120+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
330+ Engineers and Architects
80+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
210+ Professors Question 9/11
200+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
130+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Thanks for partly restoring my faith in humanity(for now at least) Highland

But actually no, I'm sure they're all a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
I mean - it isn't as if all those scientists and professors have got anything better to do with their time is it ? I'm sure they're just questioning the official story for the sheer hell and enjoyment of it...

You can add to that list too:

-- Former German Defense Minister Andreas Von Buelow

Former German Minister Says Building 7 Used To Run 9/11 Attack
Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11: Alex Jones Interviews Andreas Von Buelow
Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11: Alex Jones Interviews Andreas Von Buelow

-- Michael Meacher

not to mention a lot of other celebrities and high profile people.
-- Willie Nelson
-- Charlie Sheen

just a few and the list is growing all the time

But hey I'm sure you're all right and the muslims did it - so don't believe me or any of it, just trust someone like Bear - after all he is your friend who tells you that we're insulting the victims families (the ones who want an investigation)

youcanhandlethetruth · 05-03-2008, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCMadness

As far as islamism, I am against the whole death worshipping ideology. It was spread by the sword and lives by the sword.

See my other thread to see what a family duspute can result in.

Enough of these death worshippers

And we have strategies of muslim apologists like HighlandFP trying to divert attention away from such acts by using semantics and wildly incomparable references to try to bring other religions and cultures down to the level of Islam when confronted with the spectacle of Islamic and Arab violence.

Yes I agree that article is very very bad and I totally condemn it as pure evil.
But I didn't see where Highland was apologizing for the behaviour.
Maybe what he was trying to point out is that sicko's exist in all faiths and religions.
For instance, do you have any idea what is going on in America right now ?
Do you know they have whitehouse memos that say they can torture children ?
You want me to show you photographs from Iraq, where Marines torture children in front of their parents ? Where they kill puppies for the fun of it ?
The biggest killers if any, are the neo-cons who pre-emptively strike other countries without cause - their religion of death is just as sick and has killed far more people in the modern world.
I'm sorry but I don't understand your selective comdenation of sick individuals who belong to particular religious groups. I think you're being naive, not that I don't support your opinion on these acts, but what about the majority of muslims who are peaceful ? Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater....

04-03-2008, 01:23 PM	#54 (permalink)
youcanhandlethetruth Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,180	Absolute rubbish more like.... If you think that a bunch of arabs with box cutters managed to penetrate the most heavily fortified air defence space in the world without any resistance you must be more than one marble short. In fact basically what you're saying is that pilotsfor911truth are teeling porkies and rubbish. They are experts (unlike yourself). As for your quote "To propose otherwise is wrong and an insult to the victims, their families, the whole of the United States government let alone the population of the Free World." Then why do the victims families want a new investigation ? As for the U.S government how many countries have they attacked since world war II ? And free world ? Go back to sleep...... __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits: Akria,Clippo,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist,MikeUK

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04-03-2008, 06:56 AM	#51 (permalink)
The Bear Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 2,178	OK, I hold my hands up – you suckered me in good! I THOUGHT that you were simply “having a laugh” at worst by quoting from the stupid conspiracy web sites and didn’t for a single moment think that you actually believed the rubbish they present! Because it is rubbish on those sites. Dangerous rubbish that comes from the mad, bad, and sad or permutations of all three. It was only after I had my attention drawn to the “complaint” that you had raised that I realised that in addition to failing to grasp that simple fact that at times you plainly don’t understand what it is that you are reading, or can sift fact from contrived fiction. Never mind, most people can. Tell me, what’s your “take” on some other “hidden issues” such as “Chem-Trails” or “mind manipulation by the surreptitious use of microwave or some other form of radiation devices”? Is there something in it? And how about the forthcoming problem of the tunnels being dug by Chinese military beneath the Pacific to facilitate invasion of the US? It’s all there on the webb! Here’s one that I am concerned about. First brought to my attention by my son. The infiltration of UK brewing houses by immigrants from The Sub-Continent who have for some time been introducing a secret and tasteless rare herb into our booze that causes an insatiable desire for a curry or at least a kebab after a night “on the lash”! The truth about 9/11 is that Muslim Terrorists attacked the US. To propose otherwise is wrong and an insult to the victims, their families, the whole of the United States government let alone the population of the Free World. End of story.