Giuliani swamped by supporters

rightsideforum · 22-12-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Benito is a warmonger and has used 9/11 at every opportunity to try and further his career. Sickening considering it happened on his watch and decisions he made help contribute to the deaths of the first responders.

Care to back up your baseless smears?

You show that you haven't been watching this campaign - especially that of the Rudy Guiliani who has barely ever mentioned 9/11.

Dan · 22-12-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

He's .... a pro-abortionist.

I don't think we should confuse pro-choice with pro-abortion. Guiliani has said that whilst he's personally opposed to abortion, and wouldn't advise anyone to have one, it should be a matter for the mother to decide, rather than the state.

On a more general 'abortion' issue, I've never understood why the US is so obsessed with the abortion issue. The country has had eight years of an anti-abortion, deeply religious President, and it's seemed to have made no difference to the law in that country. If, as it seems, nothing can/will be done about the current abortion law, why is it such a litmus test for every candidate?

Mikeuk · 23-12-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan

I don't think we should confuse pro-choice with pro-abortion. Guiliani has said that whilst he's personally opposed to abortion, and wouldn't advise anyone to have one, it should be a matter for the mother to decide, rather than the state.

On a more general 'abortion' issue, I've never understood why the US is so obsessed with the abortion issue. The country has had eight years of an anti-abortion, deeply religious President, and it's seemed to have made no difference to the law in that country. If, as it seems, nothing can/will be done about the current abortion law, why is it such a litmus test for every candidate?

Pro-choice is weasel-talk for pro-abortion.

Why doesnt Benito have the courage to wear his frock in public?

Britannist · 23-12-2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan

I've never understood why the US is so obsessed with the abortion issue.

I can understand why abortion is an important issue in American politics- it is because politicians there are brave enough to bring up the issue of abortion and openly and proudly express their opposition to the horror that is the ending of the life of the defenceless unborn child (i.e. abortion).

Britannist · 23-12-2007, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan

I US....... The country has had eight years of an anti-abortion, deeply religious President, and it's seemed to have made no difference to the law in that country. If, as it seems, nothing can/will be done about the current abortion law, why is it such a litmus test for every candidate?

Although the main law on abortion in the USA has not yet been changed to make it harder for Mothers to have an abortion (i.e. to end the life of their defenceless unborn child) there isn't much point in electing someone who would try to make it easier to have an abortion, is there?

Consequently, millions of voters across the USA rightly vote and support candidates (nearly all of them Republicans) who are against making the availability of abortion easier - even if it doesn't look likely that abortion is going to be banned (or made very difficult to get) in the immediate future.

There are also other issues voters considered - most voters in the USA who oppose the horror of abortion want to know if a candidate will vote (as they hope they will) against matters connected to stem cell 'research' and against attempts to legalise something as appalling as euthanasia. Such voters will also want to make sure that a candidate who says s/he is opposed to abortion will (as long as the law in the USA allows abortion) not vote to provide public money to any pro-abortion organisation, body or group.

mkpdavies · 23-12-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rightsideforum

Care to back up your baseless smears?

You show that you haven't been watching this campaign - especially that of the Rudy Guiliani who has barely ever mentioned 9/11.

Too easy.

YouTube - TPMtv: I'm Rudy Giuliani and I Approve...

And does he have any right to brag about his 9/11 heroics? Hell no.

YouTube - Giuliani Gets Exposed As Fraud by...

YouTube - The REAL Rudy: Command Center

YouTube - The REAL Rudy: Radios

OWNED.

Giuliani won't win now. Too many people have seen what utter scum he is.

mkpdavies · 23-12-2007, 08:27 PM

More Benito style democracy.

You Tube

mkpdavies · 23-12-2007, 08:31 PM

YouTube - VIDEO: Rudy Giuliani exposed

Hypocrite Benito.

mkpdavies · 23-12-2007, 08:33 PM

Benito a Conservative?

YouTube - Rudy Giuliani -- Fiscal Conservative?

rightsideforum · 23-12-2007, 11:38 PM

Goodness me you are desperate. You've posted a youtube video of clips taken over a year ago, cuts off what he is saying and completely takes out of context what he is saying.

Post me some transcrips, and make your case, not any old idiots youtube compilation.

Furthermore even if Rudy loses, chances are that I'll strongly support the eventual winner - who is absolutely not going to be the nazi funded RuPaul.

23-12-2007, 11:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
rightsideforum Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 41	Goodness me you are desperate. You've posted a youtube video of clips taken over a year ago, cuts off what he is saying and completely takes out of context what he is saying. Post me some transcrips, and make your case, not any old idiots youtube compilation. Furthermore even if Rudy loses, chances are that I'll strongly support the eventual winner - who is absolutely not going to be the nazi funded RuPaul. __________________ http://www.rightsideforum.com/forums/cmps_index.php Conservative discussion, debate and activism!

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