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Old 22-12-2007, 02:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Default Mr. Ron Paul, New Hampshire primary, Iowa, Dean Reynolds, CBS, Sky News, polls, votes

America's CBS news reported at 12.35 am this morning (in a bulletin of CBS news broadcast on Sky Television News) that a new opinion poll puts Mr. Ron Paul third in the New Hampshire Primary.

CBS also says that Mr. Paul could be in a tie in the Iowa Primary with some other leading Republican candidates who - so far - had been doing better than him in the opinion polls.

It was also reported by CBS reporter Dean Reynolds that Mr. Ron Paul hopes to get the votes of both Republicans and Democrats and the support of frustrated non-voters.

"He cannot be dismissed" said CBS reporter Mr. Reynolds.

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Old 22-12-2007, 01:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Even if he dose not win at least their will be the public voice of opposition.

America have the same problem as we have here nu labour and blue labour. You have the conservatives and the democrats speaking with the same voice.

Why? because they are all in the pockets of the oil cartels, the bank, and the media which is practically all owned by Rupert Murdoch. If your not speaking the language that keeps these people happy they will destroy your credibility or simply not give you any media coverage.

Ron paul describes himself as the only true conservative and i'd agree. He truly believes in civil liberties. Wile i don't agree with all ron paul says. What ever happens in the world what ever stupid ideas politicians come up with all these things can be changed and rectified. Civil liberties have how ever been hard fought for. Hundreds of thousands of people have been persecuted, tortured, and murdered so that we may live as free people. If you lose civil liberties you cease to be an individual and start to become a slave.
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America's CBS news reported at 12.35 am this morning (in a bulletin of CBS news broadcast on Sky Television News) that a new opinion poll puts Mr. Ron Paul third in the New Hampshire Primary.

CBS also says that Mr. Paul could be in a tie in the Iowa Primary with some other leading Republican candidates who - so far - had been doing better than him in the opinion polls.

It was also reported by CBS reporter Dean Reynolds that Mr. Ron Paul hopes to get the votes of both Republicans and Democrats and the support of frustrated non-voters.

"He cannot be dismissed" said CBS reporter Mr. Reynolds.

Lots of spin there.

Latest polls:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Latest Polls

35 behind the leader Romeny in NH

And: 26 behind Huckabee in IO.

Honestly, please don't delude yourself, Ron Paul has NO CHANCE of coming in the top three, let alone winning any state.
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Even if he dose not win at least their will be the public voice of opposition.

America have the same problem as we have here nu labour and blue labour. You have the conservatives and the democrats speaking with the same voice.

Why? because they are all in the pockets of the oil cartels, the bank, and the media which is practically all owned by Rupert Murdoch. If your not speaking the language that keeps these people happy they will destroy your credibility or simply not give you any media coverage.

Ron paul describes himself as the only true conservative and i'd agree. He truly believes in civil liberties. Wile i don't agree with all ron paul says. What ever happens in the world what ever stupid ideas politicians come up with all these things can be changed and rectified. Civil liberties have how ever been hard fought for. Hundreds of thousands of people have been persecuted, tortured, and murdered so that we may live as free people. If you lose civil liberties you cease to be an individual and start to become a slave.
I don't think that is quite fair. There is plenty of difference between the two main parties in the states.

Politics is extremely divisive at the moment, more so than for many decades.
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And: 26 behind Huckabee in IO.

Honestly, please don't delude yourself, Ron Paul has NO CHANCE of coming in the top three, let alone winning any state.
Mr. Huckabee - a good Church man (i.e. anti-abortion) - seems to be doing well in the mid-west states of the USA.

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If the attraction is liberty - that MUST by its nature include liberty for all. His foreign policy means leaving the rest of the world to it.


In some sense you are true - but Bush has plenty of conservative credentials.


Tell me if you were running a political campaign - would you accept donations from nazis?

Answer me that because that is EXACTLY what ron paul has done in accepting a donation from a notorious nazi - the owner of the stormfront website which is a nazi racist forum with tens of thousands of members.

He has said he won't return the money.

The guy is pretty well known in the states, I believe his name is Don Black.


He's not 'anti democratic' but I'd love to hear what makes you think he's any more democratic than the rest.

Do tell me what this great democrat plans to achieve....

Again, it's an interesting and admirable campaign, he seem like a decent man, but his campaign will fail, there is NO chance he will win even one state, and then he will use his millions of pounds to back somebody else that will almost certainly put a liberal democrat into the white house.
No, it doesn't necessarily include liberty for all because that is an impossible task. Anyway, who says Iraq etc. even want liberty? In the west we value our liberty, we just lose track of it every now and then.

It isn't a case of "accepting" donations though. Are background checks and political profiles put on all/any of the donors? Of course not.

He is more democratic because he is the only GOP/Dem candidate not fuelling the great left/right con.
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And the "but his campaign will fail, there is NO chance he will win even one state" attitude prolongs the problem it describes.
The more people that think that ("Why vote? It doesn't change anything") the longer apathy reigns, and the reign of apathy enables the minority to impose their horrid fascism on the rest of us.
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Huckabee is a neocon, one world government merchant who loves war and taxes just like all the other neocon interlopers masquerading as conservatives.


Fianaly a phone in to see what the people think of Huckleberry hound.

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Huckabee also like detention without trial.

Think Progress » Huckabee: ‘If Anything,’ We Treat Inmates At Guantanamo Bay ‘Too Nice’

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During a campaign stop in Iowa today, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee commented on the conditions at the military detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, saying that “the inmates there were getting a whole lot better treatment” than “prisoners in Arkansas.” “I hope our guys don’t see this,” added Huckabee. “They’ll all want to be transferred to Guanatanmo.”
“If anything, it’s too nice,” said Huckabee
Who cares if they are innocent or not eh. They look dodgy, so bang em up and forget about em.
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Huckabee. Bought and paid for.

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