Originally Posted by bnpforme

I guess I see the whole creation of a new homogenous globalised mass of people whose only loyalty is to their own hedonistic inclinations to be very much part of the plan against us, and as such the preservation of all cultural and ethnic groups - not just European - is VERY important to me. I agree that the party system has really taken away power from the people the MPs are supposed to represent. The US Constitution foresaw this and made sure that Senators were elected by the state, and not by the people, so that they couldn't come under the direct influence of national party politics (an amendment in around 1913 changed this), but would represent the interests of the locally elected government. I like the BNP idea of citizen-initiated referenda, but I fear it wouldn't be enough to address this issue, and I certainly would be interested in hearing any ideas that could address this fundamental problem of a non-accountable political elite.

Originally Posted by Millennium3

Apart from giving the constituents the power to sack their MP, I would have the Lords appointed by a body headed by an individual appointed by the monarch - using the monarch as a sort of chairman of the nation. The Lords would then debate bills presented by the HofC and have the same powers to ask the Commons to think again. However, the difference would be, if a bill was returned twice and the Lords still did not like it - then the would have the power to call a national referendum on the issue.

Originally Posted by bnpforme

I like both ideas. With the first though, would you see this power limited in some way, or would you allow constituents at any time, and for any reason, to remove their MP? I can't quite remember, but isn't that how Schwattzernegger (sp?) removed Davis as governor of California?

Originally Posted by bnpforme

Smidgey, I wasn't referring to you. You are too much of a purist I think, to be found in either party (and that is by no means a criticism - quite the opposite).

Originally Posted by gc

Read Dahl. He suggested that the greatest threat to our form of democracy would be a hijacking of the political process by large corporations.

How right he turned out to be.

Originally Posted by For_England

That is interesting. When did he write and what was the book called - I want to read this. Any party serious about saving the country has to be aware of these things, and has to have the 'third way' of distributionism, and not capitalism, as UKIP for example. Corporate capitalism is just the back door to dictatorship and control, just as socialism is the front door.

Originally Posted by Millennium3

I think left and right have lost there meaning with regard to politics at the present time.

Cameron, in his conference speech. mentioned 'New World' order at least twice. Ed Balls went to the Bildeberg Meeting earlier this year.

Cameron and Brown are fellow travellers on the path to a NWO. It is just giant corporations and leading politicians working together on a global scale for their mutual benefit. To focus on left/right is to aid their divide and rule strategy of we the victims.

Originally Posted by For_England

Yes, in Britain there is no difference - the same globalist agenda is offered. In America, it's the same agenda, but with a choice of moral flavour so that the gullible Christians think they have influence.